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The Church of England has lost its mettle

2007-08-06T13:00:00.001+01:00

It is painfully obvious that the Church of England is in no fit state to oppose the creeping Islamification of Britain. It has lost its mettle.

There is a preoccupation with the question of gay Bishops, meanwhile serious matters are not being properly addressed. The C of E is too much "up its own arse", to put it crudely.

In the same week that we read in the newspapers that the lead is being stripped from Church roofs, due to the soaring demand for metal in India and China, we also read that numerous children's toys of Chinese manufacture are having to be recalled, due to the lead in the paint.

It is perhaps ironic that the Church, which is considered by some to be poisoning the minds of children, is being denuded so that children can be provided with toys which poison their brains instead.

Of considerable concern also is the apparent laxity of our border security. If it is easy to export large quantities of heavy metals via illegal channels, then presumably it is equally easy to import heavy metals also via illegal channels. What confidence can we have, if any, that radioactive heavy metals such as uranium are not being imported illicitly? A dirty bomb seems highly likely. I hope that I am wrong.

The Allah Delusion

2007-08-06T12:59:00.000+01:00

I can recommend the book: "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins.

The title of the book is self-explanatory. Dawkins has clearly put considerable effort into researching the subject, and goes about the task of highlighting the numerous dangerous absurdities within religious beliefs, particularly the various beliefs in God, using his own masterful style of logical argument coupled with an excellent command of the English language.

Here are the chapter and section titles, to give an idea of the breadth of its coverage:

Chapter 1 A deeply religious non-believer
Deserved respect
Undeserved respect

Chapter 2 The God Hypothesis
Polytheism
Monotheism
Secularism, the Founding Fathers and the religion of America
The poverty of agnosticism
NOMA
The Great Prayer Experiment
The Neville Chamberlain school of evolutionists
Little green men

Chapter 3 Arguments for God's existence
Thomas Aquinas' 'proofs'
The ontological argument and other a priori arguments
The argument from beauty
The argument from personal 'experience'
The argument from scripture
The argument from admired religious scientists
Pascal's Wager
Bayesian arguments

Chapter 4 Why there almost certainly is no God
The Ultimate Boeing 747
Natural selection as a consciousness-raiser
Irreducible complexity
The worship of gaps
The anthropic principle: planetary version
The anthropic principle: cosmological version
An interlude at Cambridge

Chapter 5 The roots of religion
The Darwinian imperative
Direct advantages of religion
Group selection
Religion as a by-product of something else
Psychologically primed for religion
Tread softly, because you tread on my memes
Cargo cults

Chapter 6 The roots of morality: why are we good?
Does our moral sense have a Darwinian origin?
A case study in the roots of morality
If there is no God, why be good?

Chapter 7 The 'Good' Book and the changing moral Zeitgeist
The Old Testament
Is the New Testament any better?
Love thy neighbour
The moral Zeitgeist
What about Hitler and Stalin? Weren't they atheists?

Chapter 8 What's wrong with religion? Why be so hostile?
Fundamentalism and the subversion of science
The dark side of absolutism
Faith and homosexuality
Faith and the sanctity of human life
The Great Beethoven Fallacy
How 'moderation' in faith fosters fanaticism

Chapter 9 Childhood, abuse and the escape from religion
Physical and mental abuse
In defence of children
An educational scandal
Consciousness-raising again
Religious education as a part of literary culture

Chapter 10 A much needed gap?
Binker
Consolation
Inspiration
The mother of all burkas

It is clearly the case that religions have for far too long been given a free ride, immune from critical appraisal. Dawkins is a hero in my opinion for speaking out. However, I am not primarily concerned about the threat from Christianity at the present time, as it no longer burns witches for example. However Islam is a very serious threat to the stability of the entire world right now, not just in the Middle East and Asia. It appears to be impossible for Islam to reform, as that would entail re-writing the Quran, which will simply not happen now or at any time in the future. True Islam is therefore now, and always will be stuck at the equivalent of the witch burning phase.

It may be that only the combined force of Christianity and secularism will have any hope of subdueing Islam. The best that can be hoped for is that this might just about be achievable within our own borders, although that appears increasingly unlikely within Britain and other EU regions. The EU clearly has a suicidal death-wish. There is no compelling reason why the new Roman Empire should not fall, as did the old Roman Empire.

It may be that Christianity and secularism will be unable to combine their shared interests in order to overcome Islam. There is a danger however that Christianity will feel itself to be under attack by secularism, and so make an alliance with Islam in order to defeat reason. Of course, such an alliance will be short lived, because without the protection given by reason, Christianity will then be quickly defeated by Islam. The words of Churchill are very wise and relevant to this matter, particularly his final paragraph:

Churchill:

"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia (rabies) in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries; improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.

"A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

"Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.

"No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step. Were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome."

Gordon Brown claims to be inspired by Churchill. I do not believe his claim.

We can see that the rise of religion, and particularly Islam is of serious concern to an increasing number of people who would not otherwise find books on religion to be of interest. We can see that this is the case, because books such as "The God Delusion" have become best-sellers.

It is a sign of the times that over 800 people have volunteered to send a copy of this book to Members of Parliament, well in excess of the number of MPs. The volunteers have chosen or been allocated to a particular named MP, to whom they have sent a copy. It is a remarkable feat of organisation, and I have never heard of such a task being undertaken before. Let us hope that the MPs take careful note of the contents of the book, but also come to a humble acknowledgement that they and their predecessors have seriously mismanaged the governance of Britain over the past five decades, which has resulted in the danger of Islam in our midst and the social instability that we are now facing as a consequence. Why did they not listen to Churchill? He was very well-read, and knew what he was talking about.

The threat from the creeping Islamification of Britain is far more serious than the terrorist threat. Even a dirty bomb set off in the financial heart of London would have a finite (albeit serious) impact. Perhaps only a few million people will receive an excessive radiation dose. When Britain becomes an Islamic state probably later this century or early next century it will be irreversible, affecting a cumulative total of many thousands of millions of people over a timespan of many centuries. For a state to be Islamic does not necessarily imply that everyone within it is a Muslim. It merely requires that the rulers are Muslims. Is this what Tony Blair was alluding to when he stated that Britain will have a Muslim Prime Minister one day?

The threat is real and serious, but because it is played out over a number of decades it can be easily dismissed by those who choose to ignore it, using the contemptuous label of "scaremongering" for those who can see the truth. However, the rise of the Nazis was ignored for too long, because the threat was dismissed in a similar way. We must learn from the lessons of history before it is too late.

Out of the Tunnel

2007-08-06T12:58:00.000+01:00

I have been very much affected by reading the book "Out of the Tunnel" by Rachel North. She was a passenger on one of the London underground trains on 7/7/2005, and was very close to the bomb. She describes eloquently how the bomb on the train went off with an incredibly loud bang, how the air filled with dust and smoke, how, in the darkness, the horrifying sights were visible in the light from the screens of mobile phones. How there was calling out in the darkness for everyone to stay calm, which prevented a disaster turning into an even greater tragedy.

Then how those who could walk were led away along the tunnel. How the author, even in a shocked state, was able to use humour to cope with the dire situation at that time.

Later, the book describes how a group formed, King's Cross United, giving mutual support to those involved.

If you have not read this book already, I can thoroughly recommend it. It just proves that despite the best efforts of the terrorists, even if they do cause deaths and horrific injuries, yet the spirit of courage and humanity will prevail.

Us chaps are supposed to maintain a stiff upper lip, but there is absolutely no shame in stating that the tears were flowing whilst I read this book. Read it.

But there is a silver lining in this case: Rachel North has discovered her talent for writing, and it is the new path that she has now decided to follow. I very much look forward to reading her books in the future. It looks as though her book "Out of the Tunnel" is set to be a best seller. If she picks the subject matter carefully, there is absolutely no reason why she should not have a series of best sellers in the future.

Rachel, if you are reading this blog posting, the following are my suggestions for the subjects of your future books:

Firstly, it would be nigh impossible for you to settle down to writing a book on a mundane subject, such as gardening or cookery. The market for such books is pretty much saturated anyway, and it would be a betrayal of your experiences.

Can I suggest that you need to write two more books, one that attempts to answer the "why?" questions, and the other that attempts to answer the "what to do about it?" question. The "how?" questions have already been very well answered by the "Out of the Tunnel" book. It does touch on the "why?" questions briefly, but it is deserving of a much more thorough analysis.

By "why?" I mean: Why do Islamic terrorists target innocent civilians? Why do they use the Quran to justify their actions? Why are they so indiscriminate? (Their targets include men, women, and children of all races and religions) Why will there be no end to these attacks? Why are our political leaders so confused about how to resopnd? Why do the politicians feel qualified to come out with statements regarding Islam, when it is patently obvious that they have not understood the Quran?

The third book needs to answer the question: "what to do about it?" I am still struggling to come to an adequate answer myself. My blog does not address that question. However, what is abundantly clear is that we must absolutely not give up on our democratic processes or our freedom of speech, and that there is a real danger that our civil liberties will be considerably eroded, probably without really solving the problem, if we fail to understand the "why?" questions first. Liberties are being taken with our liberties. Whatever we do, it must be done through the proper channels of Parliament and the Courts. But time is running out, and I suspect that there is only one, possibly two decades for Parliament to get this right, before I fear that people will take the law into their own hands. It would be much preferable to avoid that situation.

My blog is my own attempt to address some of the "why?" questions. I am not sure how well or otherwise my efforts have achieved that aim. It was the first anniversary of the 7/7 bombings that caused me to feel a determination to get to the bottom of the matter. Before that, I had not really been interested in Islam. Of course, we had touched on it in Religious Education at school, but that was three decades ago, and it had been only very superficially presented anyway. I did have a couple of Muslim friends at university, but they were not strict, and we did not discuss religion in any great depth. Through them, I became aware that the Muslim Brotherhood was operating on the campus, but at the time I had no idea what this organisation is, or what it stands for. That was 23 years ago.

Then 9/11 happened, and the world changed forever. The images are burned onto my memory. The planes full of passengers flown deliberately into the towers. The terrible choice of a quick death by jumping, or a painful incineration. The American lady, covered in dust, looking like a ghost, asking: "Why are they so mad (i.e. angry) at me? What did I do?" These questions haunted me. I could not answer it then.

But my day to day life prevented me form examining these questions. There were numerous project deadlines at work, and typically I was putting in 50 hours per week, and rather too frequently as many as 70 hours per week. In addition my mind was preoccupied with troubling, intractable personal problems. But the questions that the American lady had cried out remained there at the back of my mind, unanswered.

Then 7/7 happened, uncomfortably close to home. We were assured by the politicians that it was nothing to do with true Islam, but just a few crazy misguided young men, who have a very distorted understanding of the teachings in the Quran. Islam is a religion of peace, after all. This is what we were told, and I had little reason to question what we were being told on authority, from senior politicians, and religious leaders. We need to take shortcuts in our day to day life, and I was still working 50 sometimes 70 hours per week. I did not have time or energy available to do any thinking. I just accepted that what we were being told was actually true.

But the questions were still nagging at the back of my mind: "Why are they so mad (i.e. angry) at me? What did I do?"

The first anniversary of 7/7 came, and I was starting to search for answers. But I did not find them in the newspapers or on television. I started to doubt the veracity of the official line. I started to read books on Islam, and search on the internet. It was beginning to open my eyes. I determined to read the Quran itself, as that must surely hold the key. I had never read any of it before, but now felt that I must do so.

Reading the Quran is seriously hard work. It has a curious effect. On one hand, it conspires to send the reader to sleep, due to its lack of coherent narrative. On the other hand, it seriously offends all that we hold important today, and makes you gasp with disbelief that anyone would seriously believe such teachings. That a woman can be beaten by her husband, and that a woman's word is only worth half that of a man's in a Sharia court. (The result is that many rapes go unpunished, or even that the woman is then accused of adultery, and stoned to death, whilst her rapist walks free.) That homosexuals should be punished with death. That non-Muslims should have their head cut off for refusing to convert to Islam. That slavery is OK. (It was made illegal in Saudi Arabia as recently as 1965, but only due to external pressure, not due to any supposed moral superiority of Islam. But human rights abuses continue in that country and others.) That non-Muslims can be driven from their homes, and slain if they turn back. That there is a hatred of Jews and Christians, who are destined for Hell. (Do not believe the verses that say otherwise, because those verses have been abrogated, which means effectively deleted.) It is also genuinely racist, in that it states that people who have blue eyes are guilty, although it is not at all clear what we are guilty of. (We should be aware that antisemitism is a particularly despicable form of racism, because it can afflict people who would not consider themselves to be racist in other contexts.) All of these intolerant and hate-filled ideas remain still the official teaching of the Quran, whether we wish to accept the fact or not. Read it for yourself, and do your own research. You will then see for yourself precisely what I am describing.

Coming to terms wth the contents of the Quran is not easy. It is hard enough taking it into the logical part of the mind, let alone responding to it on an emotional level. Anyway, I copied and pasted some of the more violent, and bizarre verses into a text document, for easy reference. Then, I am not quite sure why, I felt inspired to draw a few cartoons, based on quotes from the Quran. I suppose that using humour is a means of coping with dire situations. But I was producing the cartoons for myself at that time, not for public viewing. It was a form of therapy perhaps, to cope with what I had read in the Quran, and to cope with the implications for the lack of peace and harmony that follows on from that.

But then, knowing what I had learned, how could I keep it to myself? Hence I started the blog.

It had only taken me two months of study to reach that point of understanding. I started to look for evidence that any of our politicians shared that understanding. Did the Church understand? What about the Archbishop of Canterbury? But I searched in vain. Nobody seemed to understand, or if they did, they were keeping that knowledge to themselves.

I felt the urgency of the need to wake people up. What had the politicians and theologians been doing with their time? What are they being paid for, but to gain an understanding of issues such as this? I am just an ordinary chap, working long hours on occasion, paying my tax, enjoying sailing at the weekends when the weather is fit, going for walks in the countryside, or visiting places of interest, and meeting up with friends for a drink and a chat.. It is not my job to get involved in politics or religion. Or so I thought. I was getting angry with our so-called leaders. It is through their laziness and incompetence that we are in this mess today. The problem has been developing for several decades. Why did they not nip it in the bud?

Regarding religion, I do not mind what anyone wishes to believe, provided that they keep it to themselves. If someone wishes to believe in fairies at the bottom of the garden, or little green men in flying saucers, that is OK by me. I am under no obligation to believe such things. I would not waste my time arguing with such people, and even thinking about their beliefs is a waste of effort. However, it is a serious problem which demands my attention when such people believe that the little green men are instructing them to cut off the heads of anyone who refuses to believe in little green men. This is the genuine teaching of the Quran, if you substitute the word "Allah", for "little green men". What a mess the world is in due to that belief.

But I am just sick of the whole subject now. Such brutality, cruelty, inhumanity and opression should have no place in a modern progressive democracy that we would hope to have here in Britain. But we are sleepwalking and blind, and our leaders cannot see. The default, if nothing is done, will be that Britain becomes an Islamic state. It will take a few decades, but the point of no return is much closer than most people wish to acknowledge. Being obliged to convert to Islam may not be too bad for us men, as it brings certain privileges. However, for women today in their 20s or 30s, it will be no fun. You may well end your days obliged to wear an all-enveloping black garment, with just a letter-box slit to look through. And the root reason why you have to wear it is to avoid exciting men into making a sexual advance. It is degrading for women to be dictated to what they must wear. Women should be free to choose whatever style of clothing they like. It is also degrading to men, because it assumes that all men are rapists. I object on both counts.

Rachel, if you are still reading this, can I suggest that you do not read the rest of my blog, at least not straight away. It has a tendency to jump off topic, without properly developing the arguments, or giving proper references. I would be no use as an author. Besides, you cannot bake a cake without first going shopping for the ingredients. By which, I mean that there was quite a lot of reading and working things out which I did before even starting the blog, which may not be apparent. Of course, I continued to read and search as I went along. It may be that you are still at the shopping for ingredients phase. Other than for the case of an autobiography, to write one book it may be necessary to read ten books. I see that you have read the writing of Hassan Butt, and it is good to see that jihadis can have a change of heart. There is some hope after all, but there is still a mountain to climb, and I have a gut feeling that you are going to play an important part in that effort Rachel.

May I suggest some further reading for you?

First and foremost, there is a well written and informative book: "Secrets of the Koran" by Don Richardson. It is very readable, but nevertheless is able to go into the subject in considerable depth. It is highly relevant. It is written from a Christian perspective, but that does not get in the way if the reader happens not to be a Christian. The author was a missionary for many years. It is important that you read this book Rachel, and also purchase a copy for your father (a vicar). You will have much to discuss together.

Secondly, it is very well worthwhile studying the websites of ex-Muslims. They are brave to walk away from their religion, as the penalty for apostacy is death. Two such websites are:

Apostasates of Islam www.apostatesofislam.com

Quote: "We are apostates of Islam. We denounce Islam as a false doctrine of hate and terror. However we are not against Muslims who are our own kin and relatives. We do not advocate hate and violence. Muslims are the main victims of Islam. Our goal is to educate them and let them see the truth. We are against Islam and not the Muslims. We strive to bring the Muslims into the fold of humanity. Eradicate Islam so our people can be liberated, so they can prosper and break away from the pillory of Islam. We would like to see Islamic countries dedicate more time to science and less time to Quran and Sharia. We would like to see them prosper and contribute to human civilization. We would like to see the draconian laws of Islam eliminated and people are treated humanely. We strive for freedom of beliefs, for equality of gender and for oneness of mankind. "

Faith Freedom www.faithfreedom.org

On the Faith Freedom website there is a good description of abrogation. Understanding abrogation is absolutely key to understanding the Quran. I suspect that many moderate Muslims do not understand it. You see, the more moderate verses are abrogated (effectively deleted), and it is the bloodthirsty ones which are relevant, being the more recent revelations. Of course, there is considerable disagreement amongst Islamic scholars regarding precisely which verses are abrogated and which are not, but as many as 500 are in this category. Therefore if a Muslim is quoting a verse from the Quran, in order to "prove" that Islam is a religion of peace, then be very cautious. Either they themselves do not understand abrogation, or if they do and they know that verse is abrogated, then they are being deliberately dishonest. (It is acceptable for a Muslim to be dishonest in order to confuse his enemies, which of course includes all non-Muslims - read the Hadiths.) Here is a moderate verse by way of example, it is almost certainly abrogated:
"There is no compulsion in religion; truly the right way has become clearly distinct from error; therefore, whoever disbelieves in the Shaitan and believes in Allah he indeed has laid hold on the firmest handle, which shall not break off, and Allah is Hearing, Knowing." Quran 2:256
It is obvious that there is in fact compulsion in religion, since numerous other verses call for the slaughter of non-Muslims.

You will also find an article by Salman Rushdie on the Faith Freedom website, written in response to 9/11. It has the title "Yes, This Is About Islam". It is relevant to all Islamic terrorist attacks, not just 9/11.

Thirdly, it is worth looking at things from an atheist perspective. We can all benefit from broadening our point of view. I can recommend "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins. Also "The End of Faith - Religion, Terror, and the Future of Reason" by Sam Harris. There is also a book by Christopher Hitchens which is good apparently, but I have not yet read it.

Finally, may I suggest that you take a look at the website of The Council of ex-Muslims of Britain. It is a new organisation. Its members are brave to speak out. It is headed by Maryam Namazie, she has received death threats. The web address is: www.ex-muslim.org.uk

It may be that you will find it helpful to discuss matters with them. It is almost certain that they know what they are talking about. Such courageous people deserve all of our support.

Take care Rachel. Your book is much appreciated, and I look forward to reading your next one. It will become obvious to you when you start getting close to the truth.

7/7/2005 the second anniversary

2007-07-11T11:29:00.000+01:00

It is two years since the 7/7 bombings. My heart goes out to those who have received physical injuries and mental scars, and to the friends and relatives of those who perished.

It is simply fortuitous that the recent bombing attempts have failed, and we cannot assume that they will always fail.

You would think that our political leaders would have "got it" by now, but they appear to be as ignorant as ever. Certainly that is the impression given by Gordon Brown and Jack Straw in recent days. They are more interested in appeasement than in stating the truth about Islam. David Cameron, possibly, is starting to open his eyes, but from his speech at an Islamic conference in London a few weeks ago, it is clear that he has much to learn. Let us hope that he can learn quickly. They have no excuse for ignorance any more, you can see that I have been doing my bit, by posting messages onto the Conservatives "security policy" message board. I await their report, which is due out in September I understand. This does not give them much time to get their act together before the party conferences, or possibly an autumn election.

Islam is simply riddled with bizarre notions, and it is quite easy to highlight these in a humorous way. For example: Given that the majority of the inhabitants of hell are women, where are the 72 virgins in paradise per suicide bomber coming from? Surely they cannot be infidel women! Nobody objected to rude songs about Hitler in WW2, and so, given that we are under attack from Islamic terrorists, the guardians of "political correctness" can hardly object. Nobody has ever been blown to pieces by a cartoon. Humour is one way of coping with a situation that is dire.

The Council of ex-Muslims of Britain

2007-07-11T11:00:00.001+01:00

There is a new organisation named The Council of ex-Muslims of Britain. Its members are brave to speak out. It is headed by Maryam Namazie, she has received death threats. The web address is:
www.ex-muslim.org.uk

Such courageous people deserve all of our support. They know the truth about Islam.

Straw and Rushdie, and proof that Allah is not all-knowing or wise

2007-07-11T10:58:00.000+01:00

On 3rd July 2007 Jack Straw appeared on Channel 4 news, and stated that the recent bombing attempts should be seen as merely criminal acts and nothing to do with Islam. Whilst it is true that they are criminal acts, it is far from being that simple and we must consider the motivation. A normal criminal, a thief for example, does it for selfish reasons. A suicide bomber does it because he believes sincerely that he is doing the will of Allah. However much we may disagree with such a belief, there is no doubt that such beliefs are strongly held, and that the suicide bomber is showing a high level of courage and selflessness. Is it any surprise that the public trust in politicians is so low, when we hear such utter nonsense from senior politicians such as Jack Straw? It is clearly a vain attempt at appeasement. Contrast this with Salman Rushdie. I am delighted that he has been knighted, although I would have considered his upholding of truth to have been more significant than his literary efforts. Please read his article "Yes, This Is About Islam" written in response to 9/11, it is still highly relevant. The article is available from the Faith Freedom website (www DOT faithfreedom DOT org) the link is below. It remains unclear to me quite where the Conservatives stand. Are you for appeasement, or are you for proclaiming the truth, even if it is unpopular in certain quarters? There is no middle way. You need to make up your minds very rapidly now, as the future of Britain is in the balance.

www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/rushdie/yes_its_about_islam.htm
Rushdie article

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The above message, with the title "Straw and Rushdie" has been placed on the Conservatives "security policy" message board. The following expands on the issues raised.

It has been known for many centuries by Islamic scholars that certain verses in the Quran had been inspired by satan. Such verses have been removed, but their tell-tale fingerprints remain. Briefly described, there were verses which recognised the existence of three goddesses, known as the daughters or the companions of Allah. Of course, their existence was not compatible with strict monotheism, and so these beliefs were later removed. The excuse given was that these verses were inspired by satan, rather than by the angel Gabriel. When Salman Rushdie raised these and other embarrasing difficulties in his book "The Satanic Verses" there was uproar and death threats. Nevertheless, any Islamic scholar, if they are being honest, will acknowledge that some verses had been inspired by satan. This of course raises a further difficult question: Are there any other verses that remain in the Quran today that have been inspired by satan, but ae not currently recognised as such?

Let me suggest that the instructions relating to Ramadan fasting are in that category. If they are not however, and were indeed handed down from Allah, then it demonstrates clearly that Allah is not all-knowing or wise.

The Ramadan fast occurrs for a whole month. The month of Ramadan moves around the year, sometimes it is in the winter, and sometimes it is in the summer. It is not a true fast, in other words it is permissible to eat and drink during the night, or if you are travelling you are exempt. However, during daylight hours it is not permissible to eat or drink.

There is a problem however for anyone living to the north of the arctic circle. If Ramadan occurrs during the winter, the sun does not rise, and so you can eat and drink whenever you like. But it could not honestly be considered to be a fast. The serious problem exists when Ramadan occurrs during the summer. The sun does not set, so there is no night, and so it is not permissible to eat or drink at all. You would surely die. However, you can eat and drink if you are travelling. Incidentally, if you are travelling, you are also exempt from saying prayers. We see the curious result, that there are five rush hours per day in Islamic countries. The car occupants are not actually going anywhere, they are just driving round in circles in order to avoid praying.

If Allah was all-knowing, he would have known that the sun does not set north of the arctic circle during the summer. If he did know that (which you would have thought would be the case if he had created the solar system), then he was not very wise when devising the fasting rules for observing Ramadan. But the simplest explanation is that Allah was not aware of the existence of the arctic circle.

The poem below highlights these and other difficulties within Islam.

The Muslim Eskimo! A poem

(No disrespect to Eskimos intended)

I have (praise be) seen the light
With the Prophet as my guide
I pray to Allah day and night
To unbelievers woe betide
You cross my path and you will know
I am a Muslim Eskimo!

Of huskies I had a band
Now gone the dirty dogs
Unclean in manner and
So it is true are hogs.
Sheep are good in many ways though
I am a Muslim Eskimo!

I use my sheep to pull my sled
But they run slow
Many end up dead
My life is woe
By Allah on I go
I am a Muslim Eskimo!

The women are scarce round here
Too many a Muslim brother
Taken many wives I fear
But the sheep I can bother
Between me and ewe. No?
I am a Muslim Eskimo!

By stealth and by guile I fight
Into my right hand posess
A lively woman. Every night
When I want I caress
And into my tilth I go
I am a Muslim Eskimo!

By and by wives two three and four
I am occupied, busy now
Offspring by the score
We are become a tribe but how
With mouths to feed, what to do?
I am a Muslim Eskimo!

The solution I espy
I approach quite near
Christians! Joyfully I cry
I can tax them very dear
To demonstrate superiority though
I am a Muslim Eskimo!

My wives' bellies get fat
The Christians are getting skinny
I wear a wooly hat
The days are somewhat chilly
The Christians start to die, but so?
I am a Muslim Eskimo!

The days are short and
The nights are long
Now is the feast of Ramadan
Plenty of exercise for the tongue
Mutton and butter and ample dough
I am a Muslim Eskimo!

A few years come and go
All praise to Allah above
I can see a problem though
It is: The nights have
Gone. All is woe
I am a Muslim Eskimo!

Now is the fast of Ramadan
A whole month long
With not a drop to drink and
Not to eat. My tongue
Has turned yellow
I am a Muslim Eskimo!

We are all faint
With hunger
We taint
Our anger
And curse our Mo
I am a Muslim Eskimo!

An idea pops into my head
A travelling we must go
Quick get the sled
Rouse the sheep and so
Through the snow we plough
I am a Muslim Eskimo!

If you travel you may eat
And drink. Make merry
What a genius feat
To move and not to tarry
Happy I am now though
I am a Muslim Eskimo!

Making endless circles in the snow
My plan is in action
Not a single problem so
Let us eat luncheon
We feast and guzzle as we go
I am a Muslim Eskimo!

But look, our provisions are all eaten
We shall eat the sheep that pull the sled
We are not so easily beaten
That one there, grab its head
Slit its throat so
I am a Muslim Eskimo!

The red blood flows upon the pristine white
The animal struggles for a minute or two
Then the end, its last fight
Chop chop, a piece for me and a piece for you
Halal we keep, the rest we throw
I am a Muslim Eskimo!

One by one the sheep are gone
Slower and slower runs the sled
Of further progress there is none
Now for certain we are all dead
This is the last terrible low
I am no more a Muslim Eskimo!

There is a lesson from the Arctic
Know full well. This is certain
Islam is a miserable trick
Long overdue for its final curtain
Reincarnation works for me now
I was a Muslim Eskimo!

St George True http://st-george-true.blogspot.com

Humanity needs peace not Islam.

Halal and Kosher

2007-07-11T10:54:00.000+01:00

If Britain is to remain a strong and effective friend of Israel in the decades to come, then there needs, I believe, to be more practical action by the Jewish community in Britain. I hope that they can come to understand the logic of my argument below, and have sufficient flexibility to take the necessary step. The required compromise is small relative to the great benefits that will in time follow from this step: A Britain freed from the Islamic influence that is currently strengthening itself daily within our borders, and an Israel with a strong and steadfast friend.

There have been far too many compromises with Islam in Britain. These clearly demonstrate the weakness of our political leaders in the face of a concerted and persistent onslaught by Islam, which is destroying our traditional Judeo-Christian values. Every time that Islam gives a push, our so called leaders back down, in order to avoid making a fuss. This appeasement must stop right now, in every single facet and way that it shows itself.

One such facet is the entirely avoidable cruelty of Halal slaughter. The throat of the animal is slit, but it takes up to two minutes for the animal to loose consciousness, during which time it clearly is suffering pain. The British public cannot abide to see animals in distress, and if democratic principles were applied to this issue, then this practice would certainly be banned. Unfortunately this method of slaughter is very similar to the Jewish Kosher method, which has very probably been the cause of lack of progress towards a humane approach in Britain.

But there is hope. Unlike Islam, Judaism has a long history of applying reasoned arguments. It may well be that slitting the throat of an animal was the best available slaughter method three millennia ago, when the religious laws were being laid down. But our knowledge has progressed, and we can surely do better than that today. If Judaism could mandate pre-stunning prior to throat slitting, that would show a true humane action towards animals, and also put Islam under strong pressure to reform its own acts.

The future of Britain is in the hands of the next generation. However they are receiving mixed messages regarding the treatment of animals. On one hand, there is great concern shown for animals in various television programmes presented by Bill Oddie, Kate Humble, Ben Fogle or David Attenborough. On the other hand, the food that they are served in their school canteens is increasingly slaughtered using the Halal method. Often the children and their parents are not even told that this is the case, but it only transpires later that such practices are widespread. There is a great fury and resentment growing.

Within retailing, see how much the Islamic influence has already progressed. Harrods does not permit service personnel wearing uniform into its store. And yet without their sacrifices, Britain would not have resisted the Nazis, and there would very probably be no State of Israel today. Both the Nazis and Islam have the aim to exterminate Jews. Now there is speculation that the Sainsburys supermarket may be taken over by wealthy Arabs. If that were to happen, then it is strengthening the probability that Halal slaughter will become the standard method throughout Britain, as is the case with New Zealand already. Where do the other supermarkets stand on this issue? It is very hard to find out. Some six months ago, Marks and Spencer ran a well publicised advertising campaign highlighting their positive approach to animal welfare. I sent them an email, copied below, enquiring about their policy towards Halal slaughter. Apart from an acknowledgement that they had received my message, I did not receive a reply. Do they have something to hide? Curiously enough, they dropped that line of advertising not long after I sent my email. Merely a coincidence? Perhaps someone with the appropriate contacts could get an answer, but it is clearly not one that the general public will be privy to.

Britain is already compromised in many ways by the appeasement of Muslims within our shores. The Jewish community must come to realise that it is in the enlightened self interest of their own community, and the interests of the Jewish people elsewhere and particularly in Israel that the cruel method of Halal slaughter must be ended in Britain. We can strengthen each other, but by being divided over these matters we are weak. Islam senses that weakness, and it encourages them to push ever harder.

The rising tide of antisemitism in Britain fills me with horror. How on earth can it have taken such a hold in Britain? Did the struggle against the Nazis by our parents and grandparents count for nothing? I feel great sadness and shame, because we have largely ceased to believe in ourselves and our principles, which has enabled all manner of deluded thinking to take hold in its place.

I stand with Israel. That small nation of 5 million people, the size of Wales, stands surrounded by 500 million, many of whom wish to see it destroyed. The reason why they are antisemitic is clear for anyone to see, simply by reading the Quran.

The rising tide of antisemitism within Britain has been highlighted by a Channel 4 programme "The War on Britain's Jews" (9th July 2007). Violence, desecration of graveyards, vandalism and intimidation directed towards Jewish people have doubled since 2001. Historically antisemitism had been the preserve of the far right. There is today a bizarre alliance between the far left and the radical Muslims. The former have put aside many of their beliefs (pro-feminism, anti-homophobia) in order to unite with Hizbollah supporters, with antisemitism as a common cause. Such sentiments have spilled over to university and college lecturers, and to journalists unions. They should know better. Clearly there has been some powerful brainwashing and misinformation spreading. Why do we not see such programmes produced by the BBC?

Humanity needs peace not Islam.

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Copy of an email sent to Marks and Spencer in December 2006. Other than an acknowledgement of receipt, they did not reply.

Dear Sir or Madam

I very much welcome the active stance that M&S has towards animal welfare.

I have looked at the website of the Farm Animal Welfare Council (www.fawc.org.uk), and have read their document 'Report on the Welfare of Farmed Animals at Slaughter or Killing'

Regarding Halal slaughter:

"195. When a very large transverse incision is made across the neck a number of vital tissues are transected including: skin, muscle, trachea, oesophagus, carotid arteries, jugular veins, major nerve trunks (e.g. vagus and phrenic nerves) plus numerous minor nerves. Such a drastic cut will inevitably trigger a barrage of sensory information to the brain in a sensible (conscious) animal. We are persuaded that such a massive injury would result in very significant pain and distress in the period before insensibility supervenes."

Can you reassure me that M&S do not sell any Halal meat, or Halal meat products?

Do you also check whether pet food contains Halal meat?

With kind regards

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The following text has been copied from the Marks and Spencer website:

Animal wellfare

At Marks & Spencer we work closely with our suppliers to ensure they raise their animals using high standards of animal health, husbandry and welfare. And we have a team of animal welfare specialists who inspect our farms to ensure this is the case.

We’ve based our welfare policy on recommendations from the UK’s Farm Animal Welfare Council, which include what are known as the Five Freedoms. Therefore we ensure our animals have freedom:

from hunger and thirst
from discomfort
from pain, injury and disease
to express normal behaviour
from fear and distress

We realise animal health and welfare is closely linked, so we always provide animals with the appropriate veterinary care if needed – although we only use medicines if it’s absolutely necessary to ensure good health and welfare. Working closely with experts, we’re looking at ways of monitoring our husbandry systems to reduce the amount of medicines we use in the future. For example we do not permit the use of growth-promoting antibiotics in the diets of any animal used in our fresh meat, poultry, eggs or milk.

At Marks & Spencer we know exactly where animals used for our food come from and what they’ve been fed. This helps us ensure they’re provided with a suitable, safe and nutritious diet. We don't allow meat, bone meal or any unauthorised feed products in any of our livestock diets. In addition we've removed GM ingredients from the diets of animals which produce our fresh beef, pork, lamb, chicken, turkey, eggs, farmed salmon and milk.

Hizb ut Tahrir

2007-07-11T10:52:00.000+01:00

Message placed onto the Conservatives "security policy" message board:

David Cameron may like to read "Secrets of the Koran" ISBN 0830731237 available from Amazon. It describes the reasons why organisations such as Hizb ut Tahrir are antisemitic. Well done for raising the issue in the House of Commons, it is greatly appreciated. As with any problem, the first step to solving it is to properly understand its nature. Perhaps you would also like to give a copy of this book to Jack Straw, as it is patently obvious that he is nowhere near understanding the problem. Give a copy to the clunky ham-fisted Gordon Brown also.

Leadership

2007-07-11T10:50:00.000+01:00

Message placed on the Conservatives "security policy" message board:

The members of the Security Policy study group should read the Quran, but do so with at least some understanding of abrogation. You will then come to realise that my earlier points are valid, in particular regarding integration. Those who are in positions of leadership should be at least one or two steps ahead of those who follow. It is the case that an increasing number of the electorate are gaining an understanding of the Quran, and expect no less effort from those who wish to lead. A letter in the Daily Telegraph (16th June 2007) discusses recent events on Israel's borders, but can only allude to the wider problem Our limitation of freedom of expression in the supposedly free press seriously hampers our ability to discuss the root of the problem in detail. Our politicians lack understanding and are easily manipulated by those who wish to destroy us. But within the ranks of the Conservative Party you have some good people. Michael Gove MP has written the excellent book "Celsius 7/7" which analyses the appeasement leading so tragically to the London bombings. Quoting from the book: "We need to display resolution in the way we pay for our security, ensuring that our intelligence services and armed services are funded properly. We also need to ensure that they get the political leadership they deserve to tackle the problems we face. That means a leadership prepared to recognize the essential link between the display of weakness in the past and the Islamist advance we face today.". It is of primary importance that some real leadership is shown urgently. It is of secondary importance which political party gains the required courage first. Fortuna favet fortibus: Ask Mrs Thatcher to explain what that means.

Security for homosexuals, women, and Jews

2007-07-11T10:49:00.000+01:00

Notes:
1. The following messages were placed on the "Security Policy" message board of the Conservative Party website.
2. Mehmet Imamzade was a Muslim interlocutor. He gave up responding to my messages, probably because he was not able to defend Islam against detailed questioning.
3. The message "Security for Jews" was deleted by the message board webmaster.

Security for homosexuals

When (rather than if) Sharia law is introduced into Britain, there will be severe penalties for homosexuals. Mehmet Imamzade, would you be happy to see homosexuals stoned to death? Surely this is a very serious security issue? It is estimated that some 4000 homosexuals may have been executed in Iran since the Islamic revolution in 1979.

Security for women

Under Sharia law, a woman's testimony is valued at only half of a man's testimony.

In the case of a rape, where there are no witnesses, a woman will usually find that her life becomes unbearable if she reports it.

If she brings her complaint to a Sharia court, it is highly likely that she will be convicted of adultery, and the man, her rapist, will receive only a very light penalty, if at all.

The penalty for adultery is extreme: Either a severe beating, or even stoning to death. One way that a woman can avoid this, is to marry the man. He then has complete authority to rape her whenever he feels like it. Here is a quote from the Quran:

"Your wives are a tilth for you, so go into your tilth when you like" Quran 2.223

In addition, a woman prisoner or slave ("those whom your right hand possesses") can be raped repeatedly without any penalty at all:

"O Prophet! surely We have made lawful to you your wives whom you have given their dowries, and those whom your right hand possesses out of those whom Allah has given to you as prisoners of war" Quran 33.50

Mehmet Imamzade, do you think it is right that a woman's testimony is valued at only half of a man's testimony?

Security for Jews

There are certain similarities between Nazi doctrines, and Islamic doctrines.

For example, both wish to exterminate Jews. Both spread their ideology by violent means where necessary. Both have a supremacist attitude.

Here are some quotes:

"Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' " " Hadith Volume 4, Book 52, Number 176:

"And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!" Quran 9.30

"Wherefore for the iniquity of those who are Jews did We disallow to them the good things which had been made lawful for them and for their hindering many (people) from Allah's way. And their taking usury though indeed they were forbidden it and their devouring the property of people falsely, and We have prepared for the unbelievers from among them a painful chastisement." Quran 4.160-161

"O Prophet! urge the believers to war; if there are twenty patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundred, and if there are a hundred of you they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they are a people who do not understand." Quran 8.65

"Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection." Quran 9.29

I have been criticised for taking a quote out of context. However, what is important is not whether a non-Muslim has some minor misunderstanding of a particular quote, but whether a Muslim will act upon their instructions. It is common knowledge that the leaders of Iran would like to see Israel wiped off the map.

The horrors of the Nazi concentration camps are well documented. We should not imagine that the Jewish people are in any less danger today.

In Britain we see the increasing number of anti-semitic desecrations of Jewish cemetries.

Mehmet Imamzade, do you not think that it is high time that Islam should stop targeting Jews?

Cameron, stand up like a man.

2007-07-11T10:48:00.001+01:00

Note: This message was placed on the "Security Policy" message board of the Conservative Party. It has been subsequently removed. It is in separate parts due to a text length restriction on their message board.

Cameron, stand up like a man.

part 1

I read in The Daily Telegraph (6th June 2007) that David Cameron has addressed a conference in London with the title "Islam and Muslims in the World Today". Unlike Blair, Cameron does not claim any pretensions to being an authority on the true meaning of the Quran. Surely he must have at least glanced at its contents? It is not some secret document locked away in a safe, but is freely available via the internet. It is nearly two years since the London bombings, perpetrated in all sincerity in the name of Islam. Surely it is the duty of everyone who is in a position of political influence to at least have a go at reading the Quran, which is the genuine inspiration for these terrorist acts, whether we wish to believe it to be the case or not. You will then be struck by just how hard it is for the western mind to assimilate its contents. Blair has read it, so he claims, and describes it as "progressive". He is so easily fooled. He clearly has not understood abrogation. Even without understanding abrogation, what, pray, is "progressive" about the severe punishment for homosexuals, or that the testimony of a woman is worth only half that of a man in a Sharia court?

part 2

Why does Cameron more or less repeat the crazy notions of the left, with these words in his speech: "After all, it is a tiny minority of British Muslims who support terrorism." Is that so? What about the opinion polls that show around a quarter of Muslims sympathise with the London suicide bombers? Just who is fooling whom? Did you not watch the Channel 4 Dispatches programme "Undercover Mosque", broadcast earlier this year? Please stop insulting our intelligence with such daft statements. Do you not yet realise that few believe such statements now, and repeating them does nothing to make us feel more secure? It merely demonstrates that you are still in denial. Instead of saying "a tiny minority" why not quote an actual percentage figure, if you are so certain that it is small, you could state "less than one percent". Reading "Celsius 7/7" by Michael Gove Conservative MP, the figure would appear to be around 11 to 15 percent, see page 122, hardly a "tiny minority". Curiously, an opinion poll very recently finds that a quarter of Muslims believe that the London bombings were the work of the security services. Presumably this is not the same quarter who sympathise with their Muslim brothers for carrying it out! We can therefore imply that half of British Muslims are deluded one way or the other.

part 3

The Conservatives would do well to distance themselves from the legacy of that foolish man Blair. The U turn over Grammar schools should be a salutory lesson. You absolutely must not follow Blair in his fatuous appeasement of Muslims, as Cameron is now doing in his speech to the Islamic conference. Discover the real truth about Islam for yourselves. An increasing number of Muslims are becoming radicalised, and your own survey shows that 37 percent of younger Muslims wish Sharia law to be introduced. It is not only undemocratic, but it is anti-democratic. Why is it impossible to integrate with Muslims? Is it because of the binge drinking culture that has grown up in the last decade? No, that can simply be seen as a response by younger adults to the hopelessness of life now in Blair's Britain. Alcohol deadens the pain. The reasons why Muslims will not, indeed cannot integrate is not hard to find. It is clearly stated in the Quran: "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people." Quran 5:51

part 4

Simply blaming this separation of communities on racism is far too simplistic. It may be a factor, but it can only be a small factor. See how well the Indian Hindu and Sikh communities have prospered in Britain, despite the racism from a few mindless idiots. Hidus and Sikhs are law abiding and peaceful, and do not place unreasonable demands upon the host nation as Muslims do, such as de facto Sharia law, no go areas in our towns and cities, interest free mortgages, tax and benefits concessions for polygamy, refusal to use hand washes in hospitals because they contain alcohol, censorship of our freedom of speech and freedom of expression (assisted by Blair, Brown, and Jack Straw), and the avoidable cruelty of halal slaughter. As an aside, Cameron is a hypocrite for not speaking out against halal slaughter, having quite rightly condemned the cruelty of live exports of horses. Labour are hypocrites for banning fox hunting on grounds of cruelty, but have done nothing about halal slaughter. A quarter of sheep in Britain are slaughtered using the cruel halal method. If it is right to be concerned for horses and foxes, then we must also be concerned for sheep and cattle. Their numbers are far greater. It must be stopped on moral grounds. Doing nothing also demonstrates appeasement of Muslims.

part 5

No, the problem of lack of integration lies squarely with Islam. Why do you think that India had to be partitioned? Hindus and Sikhs had no need to separate from each other, it was the Muslims who were the missfits. Despite the best efforts of Ghandi, partition was the only option in the end. If even someone of the stature of Ghandi could not induce Muslims to integrate, what hope have relative lightweights such as Blair or Cameron? Integration of Muslims with non-Muslims has been a serious problem from the very beginning of Islam. The evidence is in the Quran: "They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper." Quran 4:89 Muslims never have, and very probably never will fit in with non-Muslims. They will not accept the authority of non-Muslims over them, but will always seek to gain the ascendancy: "Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection." Quran 9:29 Look at what is happening in Thailand right now. How on earth does Cameron expect to change this behaviour? Is he going to rewrite the Quran? His hopes lacks all realism.

part 6

Within the ranks of the Conservative Party you have some good people. Michael Gove MP has written the excellent book "Celsius 7/7" which analyses the appeasement leading so tragically to the London bombings. Cameron would do well to (re)read this book before spouting meaningless platitudes at Islamic conferences. It is a serious error for Cameron to think that Islamic morality is higher than that of the indigenous population. Of course there are drink and drugs problems, but it is a mistake to use that as an excuse, or allow Muslims to use that to strengthen their case for introducing Sharia law. Indeed it is Muslims in Afghanistan who grow poppies, and it is Muslim Turks who transport the resulting drugs to Britain and distribute them. And furthermore consider the bribes paid by BAE Systems to the Saudi princes. There was a time when an Englishman's word was his bond. There is an argument that if we did not pay bribes in order to secure contracts, then the French or the Russians would be quite happy to do so. However, this is precisely the same argument that for so long delayed the ending of the slave trade, despite the best efforts of William Wilberforce and other good Christians. The argument was that if Britain did not transport slaves, there would be no effect, since the Spanish and Portugese would continue to do so. It was only as recently as 1965 that slavery was made illegal in Saudi Arabia, and then only due to external pressure, not through the supposed moral superiority of Islam. It was only made illegal in Sudan in 1991, but continues nevertheless. Consider also how our universities are performing moral sumersaults in order to gain Saudi funding. It is the Muslims who are corrupting us, not we who are corrupting them.

part 7

Gove concentrates his fire upon Islamists, and the thoughtlessness of political leaders who have encouraged them over the years. However, there is a need for another book from him, dealing precisely with the core of the problem, and giving an honest answer to what exactly it is within Islam itself that gives rise to so much anger and terrorism. Another excellent book that deals with the rise of Islamism in Britain is "Londonistan" by Melanie Phillips. In a way Blair is correct to state that "terrorists cause terrorism", and that in reality it is very little to do with Afghanistan, or Iraq, or Palestine. However, Blair's analysis ends there: He fails to take it to the next vital step, to ask: What produces Islamic terrorists? The answer is blindingly obvious, if you have the courage to look: The Quran itself is the primary source of this violence, supported by other Islamic writings such as the Hadiths. They are not secret documents, so read them for yourselves. You may raise the objection that there is a large percentage of so called "moderate" Muslims, who are horrified by the terrorism done in the name of Islam. Their reaction is commendable and shows that we have a shared humanity despite our other differences. It would seem that such a reaction of horror is genuine, in most cases anyway. What this demonstrates however is simply that they have been fooled about the true nature of Islam, just as Blair has been.

part 8

We have to realise that within Islam there are no "ten commandments" as there are in the Bible, which are common to Christianity and Judaism. One such command is "thou shalt not bear false witness", in other words, do not lie. Unfortunately, a Muslim has no obligation to be honest. They fool themselves, and they fool non-Muslims with ease. Here is the quote from the Hadiths which makes lying acceptable: "Whenever I tell you a narration from Allah's Apostle, by Allah, I would rather fall down from the sky than ascribe a false statement to him, but if I tell you something between me and you (not a Hadith) then it was indeed a trick (i.e., I may say things just to cheat my enemy). " Hadith Volume 9, Book 84, Number 64 How will politicians react, when it becomes increasingly well understood amongst the electorate that the true nature of Islam is more accurately implemented by Osama bin Laden and his ilk, than by the presumed "moderate" Muslims who are currently being showered with largesse at taxpayer's expense?

part 9

In the 1930s there was the desire to think the best of Herr Hitler, despite indications of his evil nature. Appeasement was in the air, and few voices raised in warning, with Churchill as a notable exception. The threat from the Nazis could have been nipped in the bud, if only Churchill had been listened to. Few believed, or perhaps wished to believe the uncomfortable truths that he was highlighting. There were some others who were also far-sighted: Reginald Mitchell with his Spitfire, without which the outcome may have been so different. But it was developed using private initiative, and no thanks to the head in the sand government. Churchill had words to say about the rise of the Nazis. He had similar words regarding Islam, which we would do well to heed. Is it credible that he was correct about the Nazis, but not about Islam? Cometh the hour cometh the man. The hour for understanding the true nature of Islam and acting upon such knowledge is upon us whether we like it or not, but where is the man? Cameron is likely to be the next prime minister after this interim placeholder, but is he man enough for this challenge? I am sure that he is decent and honest, but he must learn what Churchill knew, and more. Then he must stand up like a man, and do what is the necessity of this hour. If only the spirit of Churchill could return.

Speech by David Cameron

2007-07-11T10:43:00.000+01:00

The following has been copied from the Conservative Party website. It is dated 5th June 2007.

Speaking today at the 'Islam and Muslims in the World Today' Conference organised by the University of Cambridge, Conservative Party Leader, David Cameron, will say:

(Please check against delivery)

"I was unable to attend yesterday, but Sayeeda Warsi, Dominic Grieve and the chair of one of my policy group's, Pauline Neville-Jones, were, and have relayed to me some the key issues that were raised.

The need to define our common values.

The impact of modernity on traditional Islamic societies.

And the need to build greater understanding of Islam by others - and of Western society and culture by Muslims.

These are questions that fall under the wide-ranging disciplines of political science, theology, and sociology, but what underpins them all is a question as old as humanity itself: how do we live together?

In this country, there have been times when this question has been uppermost.

While conflict between Catholics and Protestant in Britain was bloody, we were spared the worst excesses witnessed on the continent.

The Glorious Revolution and the two Jacobite rebellions were periods of crisis for the coherence of our country.

Subsequent Catholic emancipation was a long and slow process, but ultimately successful.

The incorporation of East European Jewish immigrants, particularly a 100 years ago, and the Ugandan Asians 30 years ago can also be regarded as successes in integration into a British identity.

Each time, Britain has been able to rise to the challenge and sustain our coherence and unity.

We have done so through a combination of a steadfast faith in our institutions and values, such as freedom under the rule of law, pluralism and tolerance….

……and because society - not only the majority community but the minority community too - were prepared to stand together as one.

There is no reason to think we cannot do the same today.

Security Threat

The evil terrorist campaign we have witnessed in recent years has revealed the existence of a murderous ideology which distorts Islam and plays on a range of grievances to turn a small number of young men into revolutionaries.

As the Grand Mufti of Egypt said yesterday, "there is nothing in Islam that could ever justify these blatant acts of aggression".

Confronting the false basis of this perversion of Islam is one part of what needs to be done.

Ensuring an appropriate security response is another.

But today I want to talk about the third element: community cohesion.

Promoting community cohesion should indeed be part of our response to terrorism.

But cohesion is not just about terrorism and it is certainly not just about Muslims.

Promoting integration will help protect our security.

But too mechanistic a connection between these objectives will make it harder to achieve both, by giving the impression that the state considers all Muslims to be a security risk.

After all, it is a tiny minority of British Muslims who support terrorism.

And fewer still who are likely to plan or commit terrorist atrocities.

Cultural Separation

That's why, in discussing community cohesion today, I want to focus on another significant trend: cultural separation.

There has been a rise in what the French scholar Olivier Roy calls 'religiosity' among second or third generation Muslims of immigrant origin.

Of course we should welcome, not condemn, people who choose in a free society to express their religious belief.

But what should most definitely concern us is when heightened religious observation is accompanied by a rise in cultural separatism.

As the Grand Mufti said yesterday, "Islam calls on Muslims to be productive members of whatever society they find themselves in. Islam embodies a flexibility that allows Muslims to do so without any internal or external conflict."

Therefore, cultural separatism is something we must all work hard to resist and reverse.

Again, not just because it relates to our security concerns.

Although all terrorists are cultural separatists, not all cultural separatists are terrorists.

But though cultural separatists eschew violence, many find it hard to accept what has happened with 7/7 and other plots. In short, they seem to be in denial.

I recently visited a mosque in Birmingham and got some depressing questions about who was really responsible for 9/11 and even 7/7.

That it was a CIA plot

That Jews had been told to leave the twin towers.

When it comes to 7/7, there was real scepticism about the suicide bomber videos being fake or not.

Indeed, the poll by Channel 4 news out today suggests that one in four Muslims in this country think Government agents staged the July 7th bombings.

This is a real problem which we have all got to get to grips with.

And some recent opinion polls have suggested that we may have a growing problem of cultural separatism: in other words, the next generation of British Muslims are more separate from mainstream opinion than their parents.

For example, in a recent survey of 16-24 year old Muslims in this country, 36 percent believed if someone converts from Islam they should be punished by death.

Now, in a free society, we are all allowed our own opinions.

What's more, as individuals, we can legitimately challenge the status quo as long as it is done within the rule of law.

But I think we should be able to say confidently, and without wanting to cause offence, that some of these views are contrary to the principles of freedom and equality that we hold dear in this country.

In that respect, they must be challenged.

And I do not want to shy away from my responsibility of making this clear.

But perhaps a much more telling statistic, and alarming indictment on the cultural separation in our society, is that 31% of all Muslims in this country feel they have more in common with Muslims in other countries than they do with non-Muslims in Britain.

This cannot be explained simply in terms of the bonds of kinship which anyone will feel to the homeland of their ancestors.

There is something much deeper at work here:

A feeling of alienation.

A disillusionment with life in this country.

And an ambiguity over what it is to be both Muslim and British.

It is now absolutely vital that we address this trend.

After all, we should acknowledge that those who feel simply disillusioned and disaffected today can turn to something much more sinister, and much more subversive, tomorrow.

Indeed, as Peter Clarke, Deputy Assistant Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police recently said, "one of the most worrying" things he has come across in his job "has been the speed and apparent ease with which young men can be turned into suicidal terrorists, prepared to kill themselves and hundreds of others."

What's more, it is these people who are the first line of defence in the battle against those extremists who are actually planning attacks.

They are their cousins, brothers and sisters, and it will harder for them not only to apply the social pressure, but also indeed to recognise particularly radical philosophies contrary to the British way of life, if they themselves remain divorced from life here.

In a moment, I will explain how I think we can reverse this trend.

But first, I want to explain why I think it has happened.

Politics of Identity

Of course, there are many factors that need to be taken into consideration.

First, and not least, the impact that poverty and poor life chances have on someone's sense of isolation and belonging.

Second, racism and bigotry has done much to harm community relations.

You can't even start to talk about a truly integrated society while people are suffering racist insults and abuse, as many still are in our country on a daily basis.

Third, we have to recognise that for some young Muslims, their sense of belonging to a global Muslim community is heightened by the perception that Islam, around the world, is under attack.

They see the conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq.

And the continued failure to settle the Palestinian question.

We have to explain patiently and carefully that in Iraq and Afghanistan we are supporting democratically elected Muslim leaders.

And that in a democracy, disagreement with foreign policy can never justify violence or terrorism.

We must explain that in the Middle East we are pushing hard to get the peace process restarted.

At the same time, we must be careful not to link these issues together.

Some of the rhetoric about the 'War on Terror' has helped to give this impression.

As I've said before, this can play into the hands of those - like al-Qaeda - who want to divide the world in two.

The reality is that we should disaggregate these issues and deal with them one by one, with the humility and patience.

And a fourth factor which has helped foster this lack of belonging for many young Muslims in the UK today is the influence of a number of Muslim preachers that actively encourage cultural separatism.

One such preacher is Yusuf al'Qaradawi, who though he encourages Muslim participation in political life in the UK, says he wants to create an 'Islamic Movement' which he defined as "the organised, collective work undertaken by all the people to restore Islam to the leadership of society and the helm of life [in] all walks of life."

What's more, there are some Muslim organisations that advocate complete non-participation, especially in political life, as part of being a good Muslim.

Such encouragement is nothing short of passive resistance to our values deliberately designed to keep the Muslim community detached and separate- as outsiders in their own country.

This is helpful to no one.

It helps serve as a recruiting sergeant for the BNP, who can play up to the politics of fear by demonising an 'other' which refuses to play its part in wider society.

And those Muslim communities that choose to hold themselves apart will struggle to prosper and thrive in this country.

This was a point raised by Mufti H.E. Mustafa Ceric yesterday : the need for Muslims and the host nation to go forward on a shared, not independent, basis.

So poverty, racism, the perception that Islam is under attack and the influence of preachers that encourage separation all have a part to play in explaining why some Muslims hold views contrary to values we hold dear in this country and seem so disillusioned with life in Britain.

But I want to focus on a fifth reason in particular: the question of identity.

There are two, mutually reinforcing, factors at work here.

First, what we are witnessing is a rise in Muslim identity and consciousness.

Olivier Roy explains that this is a result of Islam becoming 'de-territorialised' - that is, established beyond its customary geographical and social backdrop.

In traditional Muslim societies, one's identity is everywhere: local schools, music, arts, family, and the legal system.

But as Roy goes on to say, once Muslims leave these traditional societies through emigration, their identity is no longer supported by society at large.

Within this framework, many first generation immigrants happily fit in with the norms and customs of their new homeland.

But they do so while not making a full break with their place of birth, bringing with them traditional habits and beliefs.

But it is their children who can feel more rootless: unable to identify fully with neither the traditional practices of their home life nor the cultural norms of modern Britain.

It is their search for an identity which makes them associate more readily with the global ummah - the worldwide Islamic community.

It is this which can lead to a depressing sense of isolation from their country of birth.

At its very worst, it can lead to extremism and violence.

This process of rising Muslim consciousness has been accelerated by the creed of multiculturalism, which despite intending to allow diversity flourish under a common banner of unity, has instead fostered difference by treating faith communities as monolithic blocks rather than individual citizens.

The result has been what Amartya Sen calls 'plural monoculturalism': a system in which people are constantly herded into different pens, with respective grievances and rights.

As a result, Bangladeshis, who have their own distinctive language and culture, are now grouped together with people from Iran to Indonesia….

….. reinforcing their sense of separateness on strength of their religious belief alone.

This rise in Muslim consciousness has been reinforced by a second, parallel, factor at work: the deliberate weakening of our collective identity in Britain.

Again, multiculturalism has its part to play.

By concentrating on defining the various cultures that have come to call Britain home, we have forgotten to define the most important one: our own.

We hear it more and more: what does it mean to be British?

We are less sure how to articulate an answer to that question than we ever have been in history.

Just recently, I stayed for a couple of nights with Abdullah and Shahida Rehman in Birmingham.

I spent a lot of time talking to them and their family, and also the wider Muslim community in the area.

Time after time I heard people talk about the uncivilised behaviour and values they see all around them.

Drugs, crime, incivility are - we have to admit - an all too common part of life in modern Britain.

We have to understand that integration is a two-way street. It is about more than immigrant communities, 'their' responsibilities and 'their' duties.

It has to be about the majority population too- the quality of life we offer, our society and our values.

Building a Positive Society

The challenge now is to create a positive vision of a British society that really stands for something and makes people want to be a part of it.

A society in which we are held together by a strong sense of shared identity and common values.

A society which encourages active citizenship, not a passive standing on the sidelines.

A society which people are not bullied to join, but are actively inspired to join.

It is about creating a framework of values in which people - all people - in our country feel they are part of a shared national endeavour, a positive purpose.

And I believe there are two key priorities in making this happen.

First, we need a clear sense of our British identity and ensure it is open to everyone.

Second, we need to build a society where people really feel they have the power to shape their own destiny.

Building Identity

Let me take each in turn.

First, a society that has the ability to inspire its citizens is one with a strong sense of history and values.

That's because history and values together shape our identity.

History revolves around institutions, buildings, symbols; a sense of where you have come from and where you are going to.

Think of America.

Of course America is not perfect.

But it does succeed in creating, to an extent far more evident that we have achieved here, a real sense of common identity - about what it means to be an American.

Freedom. Family. Opportunity and community.

Now, this is not to say we in Britain have neither history nor values. We have plenty of the former and a keen sense of the latter.

The difference is that in America, this identity is positively and actively embraced by nearly everyone, regardless of his or her ethnic background and religious affiliation.

You can see it in daily rituals like the Pledge of Allegiance.

In the strong sense of emotional attachment and reverence towards Mount Rushmore and Arlington Cemetery.

And you can see it in America's coming together on Independence Day and Thanksgiving.

It is this strong sense of inclusive identity that has helped make so many people feel part of American society.

In Britain, we have to be honest: we have failed to do the same.

We have not opened up our sense of citizenship to all those that have come to live here.

Of course the vast majority of families of recent immigrant origin do feel a strong sense of citizenship and what it is to be British.

Indeed, my time in Birmingham with the Rehmans showed that if we want to remind ourselves of British values - hospitality, tolerance and generosity to name just three - there are plenty of British Muslims ready to show us what those things really mean.

The problem is some do not.

That's because much of this transmission of our identity is unspoken and instinctive.

'Unspoken' English, as it were, can be the most difficult language to learn if you come from elsewhere.

Now this does not mean we have to adopt flag-raising ceremonies or ritualistic pledges of allegiance to the monarchy.

But we can start by ensuring history is taught properly in schools.

This does not mean we have to gloss over all the things we are not entirely proud of, but we should at least celebrate the many positive things Britain has achieved both at home and abroad.

After all, you do not earn respect by constantly denigrating and repudiating your own culture

This must include teaching our children about concepts like the rule of law, free speech, freedom of the individual and parliamentary democracy.

We can also help foster a shared sense of identity by making sure immigrants can speak English.

Today, we have communities where people from different ethnic origins never meet, never talk, never go into each others' homes.

Ultimately, it is an emotional connection that binds a country together. It is by contact that we overcome our differences - and realise that though our origins and our cultures may vary, we all share common values.

The most basic contact comes from talking to each other: and if people cannot speak the English this becomes near-impossibe.

And let's be clear: when we say a common citizenship must be open to everyone in this country, we must mean everyone.

That must include women.

Now, I know there's a myth in this country about Muslim women.

The idea that somehow all Muslim women are subservient observers of, rather than active participants in, British society.

Many are well educated and many play a vital role at the heart of their communities.

But we must not be naïve.

In certain sections of the community women are being denied access to education, work, and involvement in the political process.

These are all vital aspects of being a British citizen.

I'm told time and time again by women that the denial of these opportunities is not because of their Islamic faith but because of current cultural interpretations in Britain.

We must therefore be bold, and not hide behind the screen of cultural sensitivity…

…to say publicly that no woman should be denied rights which their country support, and, as we have learned from some speaker over the past couple of days, that some interpretations of Islam support too.

Empowering State

So bolstering our sense of identity and extending it to everyone is the first thing we need to do if we are to inspire people to feel British.

The second thing we have to do is build a society in which people really - and I mean really - have the power to shape their destinies.

These two things are mutually re-enforcing.

After all, common values, common identity and a common purpose can never be derived from the state alone.

They come from within society.

It's a question of social responsibility: the attitudes, decisions and daily actions of every single person and every single organisation in society.

After all, it will be the many millions of individual acts between human beings that will determine the success of community cohesion.

And more people will assume their social responsibility and feel part of their community if they feel real control over its future.

Look at the Gallup World Poll.

It showed that what they dub as 'involved' citizens - that is, people who have donated money or volunteered time to an organisation, helped a stranger or voiced an opinion to a public official - are much more likely to think that people from minority ethnic groups enrich cultural life in Britain than those that are not involved.

The problem in Britain today is that the avenues and channels by which people are able to take control of their life and shape their own destiny have been eroded.

This is not just the case for minority ethnic populations. It is as true for the majority population too.

Britain is now one of the most centralised states in the developed world. People no longer feel they have the means or ability to change things.

When it comes to our schools, our health service, our neighbourhoods, people feel powerless to do anything.

Again, America can teach us a lesson.

It is one of the most decentralised countries in the world.

As a result, there exists a real sense of civic responsibility and engagement, as people look to their own community, not to central government, for solutions to the problems they face.

Just as importantly, they have a belief that no matter who they are or where they come from, if they work hard enough they can achieve their goals.

Afshin Ellian, an Iranian teaching Law in the Dutch town of Leiden, summed up the difference between this approach, and the one exercised in Europe:

"Five years ago, my Afghan sister-in-law emigrated to the United States, where she now works, pays taxes and takes part in public life. If she had turned up in Europe, she would still be undergoing treatment for her trauma - and she still wouldn't have got a job or won acceptance as a citizen."

What he is saying is obvious enough: a society that gives people the chance to get on in life, to fulfil their ambitions and feel that their contribution is part of a national effort is one that will inspire affection and loyalty.

So before we can offer real hope of changing society, we have to change the way we think and do politics in this country.

We need a radical re-distribution of power in our society from the centre to the local, so we can empower people and build the responsible society we all want to see.

The power to shape their communities.

The power to shape their public services.

The power to shape their futures.

In short, more power to the people.

I want to give everyone in our country, particularly in our great cities where immigrant communities are most concentrated, much greater control over what happens in their lives, with meaningful local participation, engagement and civic responsibility.

I know what you'll say: Muslim communities already have a sense of civic responsibility that puts the rest of us to shame…

…and so the onus should be on the host population to step up to the plate and assume their responsibilities, by actively getting involved and reaching out to minority ethnic communities.

I agree with both sentiments entirely.

But the onus also lies with Muslim community and faith leaders, many of which are here today and whose work is an inspiration, to actively lead the communities they represent in the direction of involvement with the wider local community.

By that I mean extending their sense of civic responsibility and social work beyond places of worship or local community centres to people from other faith groups and backgrounds.

So let me be clear: we will not build a cohesive society if people do not assume their responsibilities.

And people will not assume their responsibilities if they do not have the power to control their lives.

"Power to the people" is one of the most deeply held Conservative ideas and in the weeks ahead we will start to show how we plan to extend it.

I began by saying that through a steadfast faith in our values and because society wanted to stand together as one, Britain has managed to answer the question of how we live together before.

And I said I believe we can do so again today.

It will require us to strengthen our identity and make it inspiring to many more people than is the case at the moment.

And it will require us to build the sort of responsible society that will make people want to play their part and stand together.

I am optimistic about our chances of doing this, because deep down, I believe the majority of us want the same.

A Britain proud of its past, and confident in its future.

A Britain built on a strong cultural identity but with the freedom to allow communities to practice their traditions.

And a Britain where if you want to play your part, there's a place for you."

The Hindu perspective

2007-02-28T10:37:00.000Z

Some people mistakenly think that it is somehow racist to criticise Islam. This is of course nonsense, since Islam is a religion, not a race. We cannot choose which race we are born into, but we do have the choice of which religion (if any) we follow.

Here is the Hindu perspective on Islam:

Misconceptions on Islam
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S.K. Balasubramanian
Misconceptions on Islam

There are a number of misconceptions on Islam. The civilized world particularly the west, has a glorified image of Islam. The following were my comments on the subject in a recent seminar on the subject in Pune.

1. Debate was allowed in early Islam
The Islamists who advocated debate and believed that theological questions could be settled by debate were known as "Muttazil" ( I am not sure of the exact name.) They preached only in Egypt. They were persecuted and one section took refuge in Tamil Nadu where they were known as Marakkayars. I came to know about the background of this community only about six months ago. They have their own Madrassas and do not mix with the other Muslims. After their expulsion, debate was violently suppressed in Islamic countries. Instances of innocent sufis being put to death have been recorded just because they claimed a direct relationship with God.

2. Islam had a tradition of scholarship
A participant cited the case of al-Beruni. He was a Persian with an Arabic name. This supports my contention that the we cannot conclude anything from names. Further al-Beruni's work was a sycophantic praise of the ruling dynasty. Whatever poetic merit was there, the work could not have had intellectual depth for the simple reason it was debasement of poetry for mercenary ends.

The modern equivalent would be someone writing Sonia Vamsham. The administration of Islamic lands was in the hands of Persians supported by Jews. The Arabs retained their tribal culture and never bothered about intellectual pursuits.

3. Islam preserved the ancient European classics and passed them on to the renaissance Europeans
I had said that the Jews of Spain were the ones who were responsible for creating such awareness in Europe of its classical past. The evidence for this idea is as follows. The library in Alexandria, or whatever was left of the library after Christian vandalism, was destroyed by the Muslims. The argument was advanced that the Koran was all embracing and the world does not need any other book or knowledge.

Emperor Frederick III (around 1200 AD) occupies a peculiar place in history. When his father died he was too young and the Pope was his guardian. He turned out to be a person of great wile and guile and was excommunicated for not pursuing the crusade he had promised to the Pope. He held court in Sicily and entertained Arabs and Jews in his court. He knew the non-Christian view of Christianity and had scant respect for the Pope.

After the excommunication edict, he decided to redeem his pledge and went on a farcical crusade. He was received in a friendly manner by the Egyptian Sultan and treated with respect as an honored guest. Frederick III enjoyed life in Egypt for six months. As a mark of his regard for the Emperor, the Sultan gave Jerusalem to the Christians. Frederick III returned to Sicily, Jerusalem in his pocket, without firing a single arrow.

If the Egyptian Muslims or the Jews were aware of the European classical knowledge Frederick should have brought the same to the notice of European scholars. There was no evidence that he did so or that the eastern Jews were aware of ancient Greece in any depth or were interested in such knowledge.

That is why I presumed a key role for the Jews in Spain. The classical knowledge came into European possession after the Moors were expelled from Spain.

4. "Islamic architecture"
My comment on architecture was based on information in a 1989 book: "India Rediscovered" by Kealy. It was there I found that Islam has no treatise on architecture comparable to Vastu Shastra. One does not have to accept everything in Vaastu. Even after the abstract elements are ignored, there would still be a science of building techniques. This is what is lacking in Islam.

The same author cites English archeologists of the last century to say that the Qutub should be a Hindu structure. The vijaya stamba is a Hindu tradition. The iron pillar at the site is also pre-Islamic. A friend showed us a video of the systematic removal of the Hindu carvings in a Mosque in side the Qutub Minar. The British author says the arch is a Hindu feature. So is the dome. The central dome in the Taj surrounded by four smaller ones is also a feature of the Hindu tradition. It was known as pancharatna. The author goes on to say that in the 18th century belief amongst the British archeologists was that the Taj must have been built by Hindu artisans trained in the tradition of the Hindu architecture who built the Gol Gumbaz.

The Garbha griha of all southern temples have decorated domes over them. The two exclusive elements of Islamic architecture are thus shown to be non-Islamic in origin.

5. The "inferiority complex"
Regarding "inferiority complex", as I said, it exists in the minds of the Indian middle class educated in English. What should not be forgotten is that Hindu society is the only society that stopped Islam in its tracks. All other Islamic societies are today 100 % Muslim. People who speak of Hindu inferiority look at the 30% that became Muslim in India. I look at the same picture and say that 70% retained their individuality. The resilience of Hinduism had been overlooked.

The role of Buddhism in sapping the vitality of our society has to be looked into objectively. Buddha was a great individual but his (?) social prescription to ignore external evil was disastrous for morale. Malaysia and Indonesia fell because they were Buddhist. It may be a coincidence but the only non-Muslim part of Indonesia, the Bali island, is Hindu.

6. Hindu Military "inferiority"
Military inferiority of Hindus is another aspect on which we have to do rethinking. Hindus also had been blamed for not adopting newer techniques of warfare. As I said there had been six incursions into India over seven hundred years. It is not likely that border incursions were limited to this number. So the occasions when we won had been ignored and only our failures are highlighted. The Hindu military genius was reflected in Shivaji's achievements.

It was another matter that our defeats had disastrous consequences which were due to the tribalism of the attackers. Often we did not repay them in kind. That was our culture. China also suffered from tribal attacks which was why the Great Wall was built and manned. Roman empire too paid a price to tribalism on its borders. In the third century Rome had as many as thirty "tyrants" ruling over the land in one century.

7. The cultural difference
The basic difference in the Hindu and Islamic approach lies in their attitude to wealth. The Hindu insists on creative processes. In Islam misappropriation, plunder, perfidy and persecution derive sanction from the example of Mohammed. The example of the Management of the BCCI bank is a typical case of Islamic culture of deceit. Besides there is the case of Asli Nadir, a British Muslim " business magnate" who now evades arrest for commercial crimes by living in the Turkish part of Cyprus. The economic crimes in Iran, Indonesia and other countries are all part of Islamic behavior. Even in India more than half of the criminal class is drawn from Muslims.

There is more objective evidence on the clutural difference. Hindus and Muslims from the subcontinent emigrated to Britain at the same time in the period 1950- 62. In those days the Commonwealth citizens could travel without restrictions to England. The Hindus and the Muslims started at the same level of poverty. After fifty years the difference between the communities is telling. The Hindus are amongst the foremost sections of British population, in wealth, social status and education. The Muslims are way down at the lowest levels.

8. Islam - A humanistic religion
There have been attempts by discerning Muslims to white wash Islam's nature and present it as a humanistic religion. Akbar Ahmed, a Pakistani living in England, propagates the view that the western media is prejudiced against Islam.

A recent article by Maulana Wahiuddin Khan in the Times of India says that the Prophet participated only in three wars. This statement is a total distortion of what is known about Mohammed's life. He was responsible for the first expeditions of plunder and loot. He laid down by his personal example the principles of "Islamic warfare". He personally ordered the massacre of the Jews. He did not participate in some wars because several missions of loot were undertaken at the same time.

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Talking Turkey

2007-02-27T11:22:00.000Z

I have read the article by Boris Johnson in The Daily Telegraph (26th Feb 2007) "Why are we so afraid of Turkey?".

Now, I often find myself in agreement with Boris, who is not one to pander to the politically correct crowd. He can be relied upon to be amusing. I enjoyed his article on the effect of flatulent cows on climate change, for example. Was his analysis complete however? What would be the overall effect on GDP (Greenhouse Derriere Product) if everyone were to eat beans instead of cow or sheep?

However, I am not in complete agreement with Boris regarding Turkey. I fear that his analysis is not complete.

I regard Turkey as having a very important role as a buffer state between the Christian world and the Islamic world. It does indeed straddle these two worlds, both geographically as well as politically. We can understand that it is being pulled in both directions by powerful forces: Modernity and secularism to the west, and religious fundamentalism to the east. I do share the concern that if we in the EU make a mess of our relationship with Turkey, that it will easily slip into the hands of the Islamic fundamentalists.

However, I do not subscribe to the view that there are only two options for Turkey. The stated options being, either full EU membership, or abandonment by the EU. The third option, which has served Switzerland very well, is to have a strong trading relationship whilst retaining political and cultural independance.

Unfortunately, the drive towards admitting Turkey into the EU has already had a destabilising effect. Fundamentalist Islam is on the rise, in a nation that had been to a large extent secular in its politics. Islam itself is not compatible with democracy.

Buffer states are vitally important. I wrote an article on my blog with the title: "A possible solution for Iraq" which discusses this in more detail. My concern is that when (or if) the coalition forces pull out of Iraq, there will be a complete bloodbath, with far more violence even than we see at present. Eventually, Iraq will be completely split along sectarian lines. Why do we not pre-empt this, at least as far as possible? This would mean formally creating a nation of Kurdistan, which would border Turkey. Possibly Kurdistan could form a secular democracy, and would in turn provide a buffer state, protecting Turkey from the elements of fundamentalist Islam.

For Kurdistan to be viable, it would be necessary for Turkey to give up its Kurdish territory. Likewise, so must Iran. It just seems bizarre that the EU is seriously considering Turkey for full membership, whilst such important issues remain unresolved.

It may be unwise to admit any Islamic state into the EU anyway. However secular it may appear officially, there will be an undercurrent of demands to introduce Sharia law into EU law. Sharia law is fundamentally incompatible with the process of generating "man made" laws, i.e. democracy itself.

For Turkey to be compatible with the rest of the EU, it must either jettison Islam completely, which is unlikely, or Islam itself must be completely reformed, to remove all the bloodthirsty and intolerant verses from the Quran. That is also highly unlikely. Therefore, the relationship between the EU and Turkey must proceed along pragmatic lines, not idealistic lines. To announce an engagement, and give the intended bride an engagement ring, then to call the wedding off is the act of a cad. It would have been better not to have even discussed the possibility of a marriage union.

The Quran itself precludes such a union:

"They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper." Quran 4.89

It was not the fault of the old Roman Empire, nor is it the fault of the new Roman Empire (the EU), that Islam cannot be reconciled with Christianity. The core difficulty is simply within the Quran:

"O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people." Quran 5.51

Hoping for a reconciliation with Islam is simply naive wishful thinking, whilst such verses remain relevant.

Here is the link to my blog:

http://st-george-true.blogspot.com

Finally, Boris, yes logically we should only use quotes in context. The quote that the Pope used in his Regensburg lecture was however pertinent to his overall argument. His main messages, that God abhors bloodshed, and that we need to apply logic and reason to faith, were somewhat overshadowed by events. The quote was then taken out of context by irate Muslims. (I think that is what you meant in your article, but the English language is not always very precise.)

Whether, in my case as a non-Muslim I consider the full context of a particular quote from the Quran, may not be too significant as I will certainly not carry out the instructions to slaugter unbelievers. What is relevant however, is whether an Islamic terrorist will take whatever quotes they like from the Quran (and there are plenty) to justify their murderous acts.

Helping those at threat from Islam

2007-02-26T11:13:00.000Z

I have in mind to start a charitable organisation, with the aim of giving support to those who have been harmed by Islam. In the first instance, this will help those who fall victim within Britain, but it is very clear that this is highly relevant in other close neighbours, such as France, The Netherlands, Sweden etc.

This is at a very early stage of being put in place. At present, it is little more than an idea. There is no name yet finalised, nor a website, nor a means of transferring funds securely and anonymously. However, where there is a need, and a willingness to actually do something about it, there will be ways found to cause it to happen. We can be inspired by William Wilberforce, who through sheer persistence against considerable opposition was able to put an end to slave trading 200 years ago.

We are familiar with the victimisation of non-Muslims by Muslims in countries such as the Sudan, Nigeria, and Thailand. However, it is seldom mentioned that there are also serious problems in Britain and other European countries.

Within our cities, as the Muslim areas expand, there is considerable strife and attacks on non-Muslims. These go largely unreported by the mainstream media.

The purpose of this Appeal is to provide material assistance to those non-Muslims who are being displaced from their homes, so that they can start their lives afresh in a safer area. Often there is a considerable financial loss incurred by the victim, not simply due to the cost of moving, but also because their house or flat will fetch a much lower price than it would, if it were not in an area of conflict. This Appeal will assist with at least partially offsetting this cost, and will permit the innocent victim to re-establish their life, free of fear.

We aim to also provide advice and information, both to the victims themselves, but also to the Police, Social Services and other organisations who may become involved, to help them to understand the roots of the problem.

Another group who are very significantly victims of Islam are apostates. These are ex-Muslims who have realised the truth about Islam, and have turned their back on it. Such people are very brave, and are deserving of our support as they seek to build a new life. It is very likely that their Muslim relatives will disown them, and indeed will cause them considerable harm, even to the point of murdering them. Of course, every effort will be made to establish the bona fides of these individuals, so that funds are not given inappropriately.

The recipients of this Appeal will be provided with assistance on the basis of urgency. Those who have recieved credible death threats will be assisted with the highest priority, but should contact the Police in the first instance.

Assistance is given irrespective of gender, race, religious background, or whether straight or gay. Of course, whilst Muslims themselves can be considered to be the greatest victims of Islam, it would not make any logical sense for this organisation to help them, unless they will firstly completely turn away from Islam.

The (no name yet) Appeal organisation is not afiliated to any political party. Neither does it promote any particular religion as an alternative to Islam, although there are comitted Christians among its founders. It should be noted that Hindus and Sikhs are also very often victims of Islam in Britain and in other European countries. It is to be hoped that we will establish strong links with the Hindu and Sikh communities, as our work progresses.

Often when a serious offence is comitted by a Muslim, the mainstream media will describes them as "Asian". This unfortunately tars the law-abiding Hindu and Sikh communities with the same brush, and is most unfair.

We have made a conscious decision that we will not apply for charitable status. In this way, we will not be beholden to officialdom, which would very probably compromise the scope of our work. Since tax relief is given to registered charities, in effect the taxpayers are providing a donation. It would not be appropriate for the (no name yet) Appeal organisation to receive these effective donations from Muslim taxpayers, who would very likely object that their tax payments are being used for purposes that they are in disagreement with.

The whole of humanity is offended by the bloodthirsty teachings that exist within the Quran, and which indeed form an integral part of Islam itself. We who form the (no name yet) Appeal organisation are motivated not by personal greed or by self-agrandisement, but simply because we are comitted to doing the right thing. Join with us in this vitally important task.

The Muslim Eskimo! A poem

2007-02-19T11:46:00.000Z

The Muslim Eskimo! A poem

(No disrespect to Eskimos intended)

I have (praise be) seen the light
With the Prophet as my guide
I pray to Allah day and night
To unbelievers woe betide
You cross my path and you will know
I am a Muslim Eskimo!

Of huskies I had a band
Now gone the dirty dogs
Unclean in manner and
So it is true are hogs.
Sheep are good in many ways though
I am a Muslim Eskimo!

I use my sheep to pull my sled
But they run slow
Many end up dead
My life is woe
By Allah on I go
I am a Muslim Eskimo!

The women are scarce round here
Too many a Muslim brother
Taken many wives I fear
But the sheep I can bother
Between me and ewe. No?
I am a Muslim Eskimo!

By stealth and by guile I fight
Into my right hand posess
A lively woman. Every night
When I want I caress
And into my tilth I go
I am a Muslim Eskimo!

By and by wives two three and four
I am occupied, busy now
Offspring by the score
We are become a tribe but how
With mouths to feed, what to do?
I am a Muslim Eskimo!

The solution I espy
I approach quite near
Christians! Joyfully I cry
I can tax them very dear
To demonstrate superiority though
I am a Muslim Eskimo!

My wives' bellies get fat
The Christians are getting skinny
I wear a wooly hat
The days are somewhat chilly
The Christians start to die, but so?
I am a Muslim Eskimo!

The days are short and
The nights are long
Now is the feast of Ramadan
Plenty of exercise for the tongue
Mutton and butter and ample dough
I am a Muslim Eskimo!

A few years come and go
All praise to Allah above
I can see a problem though
It is: The nights have
Gone. All is woe
I am a Muslim Eskimo!

Now is the fast of Ramadan
A whole month long
With not a drop to drink and
Not to eat. My tongue
Has turned yellow
I am a Muslim Eskimo!

We are all faint
With hunger
We taint
Our anger
And curse our Mo
I am a Muslim Eskimo!

An idea pops into my head
A travelling we must go
Quick get the sled
Rouse the sheep and so
Through the snow we plough
I am a Muslim Eskimo!

If you travel you may eat
And drink. Make merry
What a genius feat
To move and not to tarry
Happy I am now though
I am a Muslim Eskimo!

Making endless circles in the snow
My plan is in action
Not a single problem so
Let us eat luncheon
We feast and guzzle as we go
I am a Muslim Eskimo!

But look, our provisions are all eaten
We shall eat the sheep that pull the sled
We are not so easily beaten
That one there, grab its head
Slit its throat so
I am a Muslim Eskimo!

The red blood flows upon the pristine white
The animal struggles for a minute or two
Then the end, its last fight
Chop chop, a piece for me and a piece for you
Halal we keep, the rest we throw
I am a Muslim Eskimo!

One by one the sheep are gone
Slower and slower runs the sled
Of further progress there is none
Now for certain we are all dead
This is the last terrible low
I am no more a Muslim Eskimo!

There is a lesson from the Arctic
Know full well. This is certain
Islam is a miserable trick
Long overdue for its final curtain
Reincarnation works for me now
I was a Muslim Eskimo!

St George True (http://st-george-true.blogspot.com):

Humanity needs peace not Islam.

Wither Islam? A poem

2007-02-19T11:45:00.000Z

WITHER ISLAM?

God abhors bloodshed.
Mankind adores God.
Mankind does not abhor bloodshed.
Does God adore Mankind?

Allah does not abhor bloodshed.
Mohammed adores Allah.
Mohammed does not abhor bloodshed.
Does Allah adore Mohammed?

Mankind adores Mohammed.
Mankind adores bloodshed.
Mankind adores Allah.

Bloodshed is Allah. Allah is bloodshed.
God abhors bloodshed.
God abhors Allah

Mankind abhors Mohammed.
Mankind abhors bloodshed.

Adore Allah? Oh God!

St George True (http://st-george-true.blogspot.com):

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The poem, together with the following message, have been placed on the Web Cameron website. www.webcameron.org.uk

David, it is important for you to have a correct and reasonably thorough understanding of the truth about Islam.

If you read the Quran, it is vitally important that you first understand the concept of "abrogation". This means that the chronologically earlier, more tolerant verses are cancelled out by the later bloodthirsty verses.

An excellent description of abrogation is given on the Faith Freedom website. This website is written by ex-Muslims, so they should know. www.faithfreedom.org

Britain is at very serious risk from Islam itself, not just Islamic radicals or terrorists.

I appreciate that you have a busy schedule, but this is a matter of the greatest significance and demands your attention.

Firstly you must gain a true understanding of the threat of Islam itself.
You must then pledge yourself to do whatever is necessary to protect the British people from this menace.

This will require you to have great courage. You do not have that courage yet, but I perceive that you have the potential to gain it. If you can do this, you could one day stand alongside Churchill as one of the great leaders of Britain.

Can you agree to take the first step at least? The first step is to study the Faith Freedom website.

Quoting Sir Isaac Newton:

"When thou art convinced be not ashamed of the truth but profess it openly & indeavour to convince thy Brother also." (Yahuda Ms. 1.1 f. 6r).

Humanity needs peace not Islam.

University funding

2007-02-19T11:43:00.000Z

Tony Blair has written an article in The Daily Telegraph (15th February 2007) regarding University funding.

The title of the article is:
"Keeping universities up to the mark"

Quoting from the article:

"Today, I will launch the first national scheme to encourage a 'culture of giving' to universities from business, former students and philanthropists. It is a vital part of our changes to higher education to ensure universities remain world-class and competitive."

This sounds laudable enough. However, I have always distrusted Blair and his poor judgement. For example the half-baked change to the constitution, which means that a Scottish MP can vote on matters concerning England, whilst an English MP cannot vote on matters concerning Scotland. What a fiasco. We also see the mess of the "cash for peerages" scandal to understand that when politicians find themselves in the pockets of businessmen, that the wider public good is very ill served.

Who are these businessmen and philanthropists? Are the Universities expecting money from Saudi Arabia for example, as is the case with various schools? We see how that has led to very inappropriate text books being supplied. See my posting "Monkeys and pigs", which has a link to an excellent article by Melanie Phillips.

In the very same edition of the newspaper, there is a short article regarding the fundraising efforts of Cambridge University:

"Seat of earning

Cambridge University is half way to achieving its target of raising £1 billion from wealthy benefactors and former students by 2012 as it strives to reduce its dependence on Government grants.

The total will be used to help preserve its historic buildings and fund new research."

One hopes that my fears are groundless. However, we have seen the reaction of the authorities at Cambridge University to the re-publication of a couple of the Danish cartoons in a students' magazine. I fear that the University is already beholden to Muslims. If it has been receiving funds from Saudi Arabia, that would explain the reaction.

He who pays the piper calls the tune. One wonders what Sir Isaac Newtion would make of it all. No doubt he would be expelled from Cambridge University for his "Islamophobic" comments, if he were alive today.

Of course, it was Blair and his cronies who have called off the investigation of bribery of Saudi officials.

Doh! I am being a bit slow. Of course, the calling off of the corruption enquiries requires some reward. What better than to have the reward given to a very worthy cause, such as the restoration work of the historically important buildings at Cambridge University. We cannot therefore expect Blair to oppose the spread of Wahabi Islam in Britain.

How cheaply is our birthright being sold. I would rather see the historic buildings crumble to dust, than for our nation to become beholden to Muslims. Our rights and freedoms, developed from their early beginnings with the signing of the Magna Carta, are being systematically destroyed. We have become a nation of prostitutes.

It may be that history will show that Blair has been one of the greatest traitors to the true interests of the British people in recent times. Possibly ranking alongside Edward Heath, who took us into the "Common Market". It would have been far better to have negotiated bilateral trade agreements, as Switzerland has done, and retain sovereignty of our own Judiciary and Parliament. Without such sovereignty, it will be very hard to tackle the Islamic menace, which continually strengthens itself within our shores.

My despair for the future of Britain is growing daily.

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The Reverend Martin Niemoller (1892-1984)
Pastor in the German Confessing Church who spent seven years in a concentration camp:

In Germany they first came for the Communists -- and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews -- and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists -- and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics -- and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me -- and by that time no one was left to speak up.

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Robert Nordlander
American social critic:

Those death sentences for blasphemy suggest that Islam lacks the moral and intellectual strength and integrity to defend itself against its critics.
-- Robert Nordlander, in a Letter to the Editor, The Daily Illini, University of Illinois (July 27, 2002)

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Charles Blount (1654-93):
'for supposing that there were but three laws, viz. that of Moses, that of Christ, and that of Mahomet: either all are false, and so the whole world is deceived; or only two of them, and so the greater part is deceived'.

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Taslima Nasrin
Bangladeshi writer, secular humanist, feminist; now living under fatwa (Islamic death sentence)

I don't find any difference between Islam and Islamic fundamentalists. I believe religion is the root, and from the root fundamentalism grows as a poisonous stem. If we remove fundamentalism and keep religion, then one day or another fundamentalism will grow again. I need to say that because some liberals always defend Islam and blame fundamentalists for creating problems. But Islam itself oppresses women. Islam itself doesn't permit democracy and it violates human rights.
-- Taslima Nasrin, Interview in Free Inquiry magazine, winter 1998-1999, Vol. 19, No. 1

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St George True (http://st-george-true.blogspot.com):

WITHER ISLAM?

God abhors bloodshed.
Mankind adores God.
Mankind does not abhor bloodshed.
Does God adore Mankind?

Allah does not abhor bloodshed.
Mohammed adores Allah.
Mohammed does not abhor bloodshed.
Does Allah adore Mohammed?

Mankind adores Mohammed.
Mankind adores bloodshed.
Mankind adores Allah.

Bloodshed is Allah. Allah is bloodshed.
God abhors bloodshed.
God abhors Allah

Mankind abhors Mohammed.
Mankind abhors bloodshed.

Adore Allah? Oh God!

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Sir Isaac Newton

"The Mahometan religion tho spread by conquest is not yet grown so universal, the Christian tho spread by the divine assistance & at length backt by the Roman Empire is less universal than the Mahometan."

"When thou art convinced be not ashamed of the truth but profess it openly & indeavour to convince thy Brother also." (Yahuda Ms. 1.1 f. 6r).

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Humanity needs peace not Islam.

Raspberry and wasp flavoured yoghurt

2007-02-19T11:33:00.000Z

The yoghurt that I was eating as part of my breakfast seemed unusually crunchy, so I spat it out. There were the remains, or at least part of the remains of an illegal stowaway. A wasp!

Here it is:

If only the illegal human stowaways entering Britain were as harmless as this specimen. There would not be too much of a problem (other than scarcity of resources). Here illegally, it is unlikely that they will find lawful occupations. Drug dealing, prostitution, financial scams, thievery and muggings, and other illegal activity We need proper security at our borders. The financial cost of such security is very likely far outweighed by the resulting cost of all the ensuing lawlessness.

No doubt these aliens will wish to own and drive a car. Being illegal however, means that they will have to drive without a license or insurance. The vehicle is therefore unlikely to be taxed or have an MOT (annual safety inspection). How many deaths or serious injuries have been caused to innocent British citizens by such illegal immigrants? Is it any wonder that the statistics for road accidents and deaths is increasing, even though the design of cars is improving in their safety features? Also, due to the ever-increasing number of speed cameras, the typical road speed is noticeably reducing.

What about H5N1 bird flu and the very apparent lack of bio-security at the Bernard Matthews turkey farms both in the UK and in Hungary? They have been criticised for allowing seagulls to eat the waste meat, and spread it to the turkey sheds. Also the turkey sheds have holes large enough for rodents to enter. Surely the disease could also be transferred by a fly travelling the few hundred yards between processing plant and turkey shed?

This Labour government has been failing the British people for too long. Too many harmful people and items (drugs, guns and ideologies) have been allowed to enter Britain. By contrast, a dead wasp in a pot of yoghurt is probably harmless, unless it first visited a turkey farm.

I shall continue to eat this type of yoghurt because it is soya based, and supposed to be good against cholesterol. However I shall check it first by emptying the contents of the pot into a separate bowl.

It only takes a small amount of harmful entity to spoil a much larger wholesome entity.

Humanity needs peace not Islam.

The gravity of the situation

2007-02-15T14:24:00.000Z

This has been sent as an email to the authorities at Clare College Cambridge.
My postings "Sir Isaac Newton regarding Islam" and "Policy Exchange report" have been appended.

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The gravity of the situation

Regarding the recent re-publication of the Danish cartoons:

I would be grateful if you would forward this email to the student involved. It may be that he does not quite understand what he has got himself into, and would benefit from the information below.

I would hope that the University authorities will properly exercise their duty of care towards this student, even though his actions are a little foolhardy.

May I draw to your attention to the report prepared by the Policy Exchange think tank, on behalf of the Conservative Party.
( www.policyexchange.org.uk ): "Living apart together - British Muslims and the paradox of multiculturalism".

A pertinent quote from the report is:

"An integral aspect of this liberal model is the right to cause offence and criticise other people’s cultures. Today, with increased sensitivities about Islamophobia, many Muslims feel entitled to have their religious views and identity protected. Their attitudes towards women, homosexuality, or politics are seen to be so inalienable that they are out of bounds for criticism." page 89

In addition, during BBC Question Time (21st September 2006):

Regarding the lecture by the Pope, Sir Christopher Meyer, former British Ambassador to the U.S. said:

"The freedom of speech comes with the freedom to be offensive. It comes, from time to time, with the freedom to upset people. The important thing is: When it happens, be it said by a Catholic Pope, or by a Muslim, the reaction of the authorities and the law should be an absolutely level playing field for everyone, and we don't have that."

In the context of the offensiveness caused by Muslims who have slaughtered and maimed innocent civilians in London, and the threat to blow up airlines and more recently the plot to torture and execute a British soldier, how does the offensiveness of a cartoon compare? Of course there is simply no equivalence whatever.

The wise course of action is to stop pandering to those who get so agitated, and to point out the harmfulness to community relationships that is caused by Islamic terrorists, which far outweighs in its significance the publication of a few daft cartoons.

I trust that the University will not penalise this student out of all proportion to the nature of the offence. The University must also do what it can to ensure his safety.

You may also like to ponder over the points below.

Yours sincerely,

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Message sent to:

CONTACTS AT CLARE COLLEGE CAMBRIDGE

Bursar - Hearn, Mr D bursar@clare.cam.ac.uk

Dean - Greeves, Revd R dean@clare.cam.ac.uk

The Master - Badger, Prof A J master@clare.cam.ac.uk

MCR President - Doupe, Mr David dpd26@cam.ac.uk

UCS President - Davey, Mr Calum cd361@cam.ac.uk

Acting Senior Tutor - Fara, Dr P pf10006@cam.ac.uk

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Humanity needs peace not Islam.

Sir Isaac Newton regarding Islam

2007-02-15T13:23:00.000Z

Here are quotes from Sir Isaac Newton regarding Islam:

"The Mahometan religion tho spread by conquest is not yet grown so universal, the Christian tho spread by the divine assistance & at length backt by the Roman Empire is less universal than the Mahometan."

and

"All other religions have been set on foot for politique ends, this is of a contrary nature. The heathens out of flattery worshipped the ancestors of their kings & the Mahometans the founder of their Empire such religions men are prone to: but Abraham fled his country for the sake of his religion & Christ & his disciples suffered persecutions even unto death for 300 years together for the sake of theirs."

No doubt Newton would be expelled from Cambridge University if he were to write such inflammatory remarks today.

We see that a student of Cambridge University, perhaps ill-advisedly given the threat to his safety, has re-published a couple of the Danish cartoons.

It may be that this student will be expelled. Coincidentally, he is studying mathematics and physics, and clearly has some interest in theology. Very much following in Newton's footsteps therefore.

One hopes that the University authorities have some understanding of the truth about Islam. As Newton himself has stated:

"When thou art convinced be not ashamed of the truth but profess it openly & indeavour to convince thy Brother also." (Yahuda Ms. 1.1 f. 6r).

Links of interest:

God Help Britain

godhelpbritain.blogspot.com

CLARE COLLEGE MAGAZINE

Clareification-news@srcf.ucam.org

HERO: STUDENT FIGHTS THE CAUSE

www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/city/2007/02/09/ef79ee97-fec1-4f00-babf-dbd17447b40b.lpf

www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/education/article1362553.ece

The MSM have refused to report this:
drakesdrumuk.blogspot.com/2007/02/murder-too-far-for-msm.html

Could it have been a grooming gone wrong? The girl was around the right age:

drakesdrumuk.blogspot.com/2007/02/grooming.html

Cambridge Tooniversity bans free speech about Islam...

ibloga.blogspot.com/2007/02/fuck-it-we-aint-giving-up-ghost.html

pubphilosopher.blogs.com/pub_philosopher/2007/02/clare_college_r.html

pubphilosopher.blogs.com/pub_philosopher/2007/02/student_discipl.html

I (religion of pe) recently published the 20 most menacing aspects of the death cult at

ibloga.blogspot.com/2006/11/20-things-you-should-know-about-islam.html

Islam has a paedophile for a prophet, and a brothel-keeper for a god.

Jesus said "By their fruits ye shall know them".

Real religions bring out the best in people, Islam does the opposite.

GOD SAVE THE QUEEN! (WHAT'S THE ALTERNATIVE?)

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CONTACTS AT CLARE COLLEGE CAMBRIDGE

Bursar - Hearn, Mr D bursar@clare.cam.ac.uk

Dean - Greeves, Revd R dean@clare.cam.ac.uk

The Master - Badger, Prof A J master@clare.cam.ac.uk

MCR President - Doupe, Mr David dpd26@cam.ac.uk

UCS President - Davey, Mr Calum cd361@cam.ac.uk

Acting Senior Tutor - Fara, Dr P pf10006@cam.ac.uk

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Humanity needs peace not Islam.

Buddhist exemption from inheritance tax

2007-02-15T13:20:00.000Z

Buddhist exemption from inheritance tax

A Buddhist does not need to pay any inheritance tax whatsoever.

This is how it works:

Buddhists are reincarnated. Within their will, they can decree that all of their posessions are simply transferred to the new incarnation of themselves. Since no other party is the beneficiary of the will, there is no inheritance tax to be paid.

How can you tell that a particular baby is the reincarnation of a particular deceased person? This is a problem that has already been addressed, at least in the case of the Dalai Lama. Various tests have been devised in order to be able to select the correct infant.

Furthermore, it appears to be possible for the person to have some influence over their future incarnation. This is demonstrated as the current Dalai Lama has declared that his next incarnation will be in territory that is not controlled by the Chinese.

So, for the purpose of avoiding inheritance tax, you could declare that you will be reincarnated as a baby born to a relative, your niece for example. The entire value of your estate will therefore benefit your relatives, without a single penny going to the tax man.

What it means of course is that non-Buddhists end up paying more tax, to make up for the shortfall that Buddhists are not paying.

Is this not quite outrageous? Of course it is. I made it up.

The point that I am making is that if you make concessions to one religious group, then you should in fairness make concessions to another religious group. Since various concessions have been made to Muslims, it would be perfectly reasonable for Buddhists to also benefit from special treatment. Avoiding payment of inheritance tax is quite reasonable in this context.

Muslims have been given the concession that they can take out bank loans at zero interest rate. This is because Islam forbids usuary.

However, if a Muslim were to take out an interest free loan, and put the money into a different account which bears interest, then they are effectively getting money for nothing. For example, borrowing one million ponds, interest free for a year, and putting it into a separate account bearing 5 percent interest would give 50,000 pounds interest. Even if the condition of the interest-free loan is that any "profit" is split equally (which appears to be the case typically), this still gives the Muslim 25,000 pounds for virtually no effort.

Of course, it is the non-Muslims who are paying for this, through our bank charges and the interest that we pay for our loans.

Is this not just as outrageous as the possibility that Buddhists need not pay inheritance tax? The difference of course, is that interest free loans for Muslims are happening right now.

The other concession to Muslims of course is the matter of Halal slaughter, which I have gone on about ad nauseam. Simply to state that if a non-Muslim were to kill an animal by slitting its throat without any pre-stunning, that person would quite rightly be prosecuted for cruelty to animals.

Perhaps any of us can start our own religion, and then claim special treatment. One that I have in mind I am calling "Automatonism". The central belief is that there is no such thing as free will. We are all pre-destined to follow exactly a pre-defined course through our lives. We are all automatons.

Since we have no free will, we also have no responsibility for our actions. Therefore I can steal as much as I like, and will not be arrested or appear before any courts. In addition, I do not need to purchase any car insurance, since if I cause an accident, it is not my fault since I have no free will.

So the concessions that I demand for my religion is that I can steal as much as I like, and I can cause as much harm to other people as I feel like, and be immune from any prosecution.

It is very clearly absurd to give anyone concessions on the basis of their belief in "Automatonism". Why is it any less absurd therefore to give concessions on the basis of their belief in "Islam"?

Humanity needs peace not Islam.

What can a Christian eat?

2007-02-14T11:14:00.000Z

Around a quarter of all sheep slaughtered in Britain are killed using the Halal method. It is the case that many of these are unwittingly consumed by non-Muslims.

Much the same applies to cattle.

It may be that you are not too concerned about the completely avoidable suffering caused to these animals by slitting their throats whilst they are fully conscious. However, do you really wish to eat meat that has been prayed over by a Muslim? Since for the Muslim the Quran abrogates the Bible, it would seem logical that any prayers given by that Muslim would over-ride any subsequent prayers given by a Christian over that food.

It is the case that pigs are not Halal. However, it is worth reconsidering whether they should be permitted for Christians.

"And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you: ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcase." Deuteronomy 14:8

I am aware of the following verse, which would appear to make it permissible to eat anything:

"There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man." Mark 7:15

However, there are also these verses:

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." Matthew 5:17-18

Presumably the law includes the injunction not to eat swine. (See Deuteronomy 14:8 and other similar verses.)

At the present time it may be unwise to eat chicken or turkey due to H5N1 bird flu. We are advised that it is perfectly safe if it is cooked. Does that imply that it may be unsafe raw? However, it is generally received and handled in an uncooked state. There appears to be a logical disconnect.

It may be that the ideal diet of the Bible is that of a vegetarian or a vegan. It appears that Adam and Eve were vegans before the fall.

"The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent’s meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD." Isaiah 65:25

"He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog’s neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine’s blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations." Isaiah 66:3

Really it is your own choice whether to eat Halal meat or not. Likewise, it is your choice whether to be a Christian or a Muslim or an atheist etc. However, the reality in Britain today, if you choose not to eat Halal, is that it is necessary to simply avoid eating meat altogether (except pig meat), since you have no idea whether the meat is Halal or not.

A final thought:

"For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs. Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him." Romans 14:2-3

So, in your own conscience applied to yourself: What can a Christian eat?

Humanity needs peace not Islam.

Monkeys and pigs

2007-02-14T11:10:00.000Z

Whilst it may be true that the Quran can be fully understood only by those who understand Arabic, does it follow that just because the fine gradations of meaning are lost in translation, that we cannot have a pretty good understanding by reading an English translation?

Surely not.

Whilst we can take with a pinch of salt the accusations that the Police, or the BBC or any other mainstream organisations are "institutionally racist", what about the Quran? This is, in effect, the operational handbook of Islam. Imagine the outcry if a Police handbook made reference to "pigs and monkeys"!

What then are we to make of the text books used in schools? These books were provided by Saudi Arabia. Details are given here:

www.melaniephillips.com/diary/?p=1459

Can this really be happening in Britain in 2007? It seems like medieval nonsense.

The trouble is, some people really believe this nonsense.

Quotes from the Quran:

[2.65] And certainly you have known those among you who exceeded the limits of the Sabbath, so We said to them: Be (as) apes, despised and hated.

[5.60] Say: Shall I inform you of (him who is) worse than this in retribution from Allah? (Worse is he) whom Allah has cursed and brought His wrath upon, and of whom He made apes and swine, and he who served the Shaitan; these are worse in place and more erring from the straight path.

[7.166] Therefore when they revoltingly persisted in what they had been forbidden, We said to them: Be (as) apes, despised and hated.

Given that the "solution" to the school textbook problem was to tear out the offendeing pages, perhaps the same solution can be applied to the offending pages in the Quran?

If all pages containing bloodthirsty, violent, homophobic, sexist, derogatory and supremacist verses were removed from the Quran, we would very probably find few pages remaining. Remove also any verses that have been abrogated by the bloodthirsty etc verses, and there may be nothing left at all.

Humanity needs peace not Islam.

Conservatives: You do not understand

2007-02-13T10:30:00.000Z

I have posted this message onto the Conservative's "Security Policy" message board.

I have read the "Uniting the Country" interim report of the Policy Group on National and International Security.

I have also read the report by the Policy Exchange think tank ( www.policyexchange.org.uk ): "Living apart together - British Muslims and the paradox of multiculturalism".

The latter gives much useful informtion. For example, 37 percent of 16 - 24 year olds would prefer to live under Sharia law, compared to 17 percent of 55+ year olds. If this trend continues, and there is no reason to believe that it will not, then we can expect an increase in the intensity of the demands for Sharia law to be introduced in the coming years.

Unfortunately the Security Policy Group are still labouring under a delusion. The "Uniting the Country" report states:

"Government should combat the incorrect and damaging popular misconception, revealed in public opinion polls, that Islam as a religion per se is a threat to democracy"

Sadly, it really is the uncomfortable truth that Islam itself is indeed a threat to democracy. The electorate are more advanced in their thinking than are the Conservatives on this point. Here is why:

Sharia law is considered to be made by Allah. Man made laws must therefore be subservient to Sharia law, and even removed entirely. Man made laws are produced in places such as Brussels, Westminster, the Scottish Parliament, and the Welsh Assembly. With the possible exception of Brussels, there is some sort of democratic accountability involved. Sharia law is unarguably undemocratic. By extension, so is Islam itself.

For the Conservatives to have any hope of forming the next government, they must show some true leadership qualities right now. Such qualities include stating the truth, even if it is uncomfortable. Churchill understood very well what we are up against, and he had the boldness and conviction to be able to state it clearly. I am convinced that if successive governments had heeded his words, that we would not find ourselves in the mess that we are now in. Can Cameron turn the situation around? Not if he refuses to understand the truth.

Quoting from Churchill:

"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia (rabies) in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries; improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.

"A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

"Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.

"No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step. Were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome."

Humanity needs peace not Islam.

Home Secretary: "My friend"

2007-02-13T10:28:00.000Z

Gathering a few threads together:

1. July 2006: Just before the anniversary of the London bombings, Abu Izzadeen made a number of remarks, which "allegedly" glorify terrorism. Glorification of terrorism is a criminal offence.

2. September 2006: Home Secretary John Reid addressed a gathering of Muslims, with the aim of asking them to co-operate with the war on terror within Britain. He was heckled for some time by Abu Izzadeen. During the heckling, the Home Secretary repeatedly referred to him as "My friend".

3. January 2007: The Conservatives produced a document with the title: "Uniting the Country". (In fact, it has no title, but the file name is "unitingthecountry.pdf") This is the interim report of the Policy Group on National and International
Security.

4. February 2007: Abu Izzadeen was arrested for "allegedly" glorifying terrorism, and released on bail pending trial.

The most curious aspect of this is why was he not arrested shortly after making his remarks in July 2006?

Also, why was he permitted to disrupt a meeting presided over by the Home Secretary, the purpose of which was aimed at rooting out extremists such as him?

Is it merely a coincidence that he was arrested not long after the Conservatives produced their document?

Regarding the glorification of terrorism law, the document states:

"The Government has recently passed laws to prevent the spread of racial hatred and the glorification of terrorism. It has objectionable features but as it is on the statute book, it should be used actively to combat the instances of abuse of tolerance and free speech which are known to occur or else it should be removed from the statute book. Dead letter legislation induces contempt for the law."

I have made it my task to spread the truth about the bloodthirsty verses in the Quran, which abrogate the chronologically earlier verses. The earlier verses tend to be more tolerant. As part of this task, I have posted a number of messages onto the Conservative's "Security Policy" message board, together with links to my blog and other websites of relevance.

One of the points that I made was:

"In my own opinion, it is very clear that the Quran does indeed glorify terrorism. Should the British legal system therefore ban the Quran? The legislation is relatively recent, and was enacted in response to 9/11. It is not some archaic law (such as the obligation to do weekly archery practice) which has simply not been repealed. It is very much a law of our time.

I would suggest that given that we have this law now which makes illegal the glorification of terrorism, and also to anyone of sound mind, it would appear that the Quran does in fact glorify terrorism, then surely we should as a minimum have a legal enquiry into the status of the Quran in this respect. The legal process must take its course.

Doing only half a job, i.e. producing this legislation, and then failing to follow it through to its logical conclusion indicates that the present government is incompetent at the least. Perhaps they understood what they were doing, but now are too afraid to carry it through. In either case, whether they are stupid, or whether they are cowards, they are not fit to govern.
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It is the current Labour government that has created the law banning the glorification of terrorism. However, it is patently clear that they are completely lacking in courage to follow through with the task. They must realise that the Quran is the single most significant document that glorifies terrorism."

Now that Abu Izzadeen is the first person to be charged under the glorification of terrorism act, perhaps some truths will come out. What sort of arguments could his lawyers put forward in his defence? Since he appears on video making these remarks, it is hardly likely that the lawyers can argue that his words are misunderstood. The meaning of his words are plain and obvious for all to see and hear.

The lawyers may try to get him off on some legal technicality. However, there would be such a public outcry if that were to happen, that such a course would seem unlikely. A re-trial would be almost inevitable in that case.

The only other realistic possibility that I can see would be for the defendant to plead some sort of insanity or undue influence. Where would such influence originate? Err .. the Quran perhaps?

If that is the defence given, the next logical step would be to have a judicial enquiry into whether the Quran itself glorifies terrorism. We live in interesting times.

We who feel the urgency to enlighten our fellow humans about the inhumanity of the Quran, often feel that we are shouting into an empty cave to no avail. However, I do wonder if my efforts have played some part in the chain of events that have led to the arrest of Abu Izzadeen. It is probable that there are several hundred thousand more like him. It is unlikely that the Home Secretary can provide accommodation for all of his new-found friends however!

Very regretably, it really is a vain hope to believe that Muslims can live peacefully alongside non-Muslims. I truly wish that it were not so, however, the Quran itself makes this point very unambiguously:

"Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends rather than believers; and whoever does this, he shall have nothing of (the guardianship of) Allah, but you should guard yourselves against them, guarding carefully; and Allah makes you cautious of (retribution from) Himself; and to Allah is the eventual coming." Quran 3.28

"O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil)." Quran 9.123

It is a sign of weak leadership by our politicians (both Labour and Conservative) that they are unable, or unwilling to confront the truth of this reality. It is not possible even to begin to solve a problem until it is properly understood. Do they not understand why, despite the best efforts of Ghandi, it was necessary to partition India? If someone of the stature and moral courage of Ghandi was unable to effect a workable cohesion for "Uniting the Country", what hope have Blair, Brown or Cameron?

Humanity needs peace not Islam.

Afghan poppy crop

2007-02-12T12:07:00.000Z

Tackling the growing of poppies in Afghanistan is a difficult problem. The current plan which is to spray herbicides is unlikely to have any lasting impact. It will have little impact anyway, since the spraying will of necessity be at low level, using relatively light aircraft. These will be extremely vulnerable to being shot down. You are likely to run out of aircraft and willing pilots before even a fraction of the many square miles of poppy crop has been sprayed. The exercise must be repeated year after year to have any significant impact.

Given the vast acreages, it is necessary to use a fleet of heavy-lift aircraft such as the Hercules. The size of the problem is simply too great to be tackled by light aircraft. To reduce the risk of being shot down, the Hercules would need to fly at a reasonable altitude, say 10000 feet or above. Unfortunately, any herbicide sprayed from that altitude is liable to have evaporated and dispersed long before it reaches the ground. (Possibly you could spray herbicide from some altitude, if you do so whilst it is raining. The rain would carry it to the ground level. It would however be necessary to fly at or below cloudbase, which is likely to be a vulnerable height. Additionally, the herbicide may be rendered ineffective, if the rain is too heavy, since it would simply be washed off the leaves. It may be worth considering, but as a stop-gap approach, to destroy a crop that is already established.)

Here is a workable solution:

Simply stated: From a safe height, dispense a combination of salt and rape seed from the back of a fleet of Hercules aircraft. As both of these are solids, they will reach the ground, in most weather conditions. Since rape plants are members of the brassica family, they are easily able to grow in salty soil. Poppies are not in the brassica family, and are weakened and stunted by salt, if they grow at all. Unlike herbicides, the salt in the soil will remain active for some time, until it is eventually washed away.

The rape seeds are small. However, each rape plant grows into quite a good sized bush, some 5 feet high. It should easily out-compete the poppy plants near it, particularly if they are weakened by the salt. Each rape plant produces a large number of seeds, which would produce a much denser ground cover in the following year. Taking the land out of use for poppy growing in this way has some chance of success. Spraying herbicide is too high-tech, and requires too much infrastructure and support for it to work effectively over the vast areas involved.

The rape plants can be harvested and used for cooking oil production. Salting the land does not make it completely useless for growing other crops. Any plants in the brassica family should be OK. This includes food crops such as cabbage or sprouts etc, so this approach will not result in starvation of the population.

Incentives could be given to the farmers to grow and harvest the rape seeds, which would then be used to curtail poppy growing in other districts.

This is a possible solution to one particular problem. However western civilisation is under much greater threat than that due to a small percentage of the population who are involved in drugs. Tackling the drugs problem is worthwhile for the sake of those who get sucked into it, but also as it fuels the crime wave.

No, the greatest threat is from Islam itself. In a survey last year, 53 percent of the respondents consider that Islam itself is a threat to democracy and our way of life. Unfortunately our political leaders are somewhat behind the public understanding on this issue.

Tony Blair appears to have little depth of understanding. Following the London bombings, he stated:

"We will start to beat this when we stand up and confront the ideology of this evil. Not just the methods but the ideas."

That is a valid point. However, more recently Blair has stated:

"The most remarkable thing about reading the Koran – in so far as it can be truly translated from the original Arabic - is to understand how progressive it is.

What utter tripe!

It is high time that our politicians fully grasped the truth about Islam, as the general public are ahead of them on this issue. Do they understand the concept of "abrogation"? Blair clearly does not.

If you will but read the Quran, with an understanding of abrogation, you will clearly see that the Quran is at the root of encouraging, condoning and glorifying Islamic terrorism. It also clearly states that Muslims cannot integrate with the rest of society. Why are our politicians so blind not to see this?

Here are a couple of quotes, by way of example. There are many others that are equally disturbing:

"When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them." Quran 8.12

"O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil)." Quran 9.123

"O Prophet! urge the believers to war; if there are twenty patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundred, and if there are a hundred of you they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they are a people who do not understand." Quran 8.65

It is high time that our politicians demonstrated that they have a true understanding of Islam, and the bloodthirsty nature of the Quran. You will have no chance of beating the "ideology of this evil", until you understand the true nature of the ideology itself.

Following 9/11, Salman Rushdie wrote an article with the title "Yes, This Is About Islam". This article should be required reading. It can be found here:

www.faithfreedom.org

Humanity needs peace not Islam.

Who are the Nazis now?

2007-02-01T13:09:00.000Z

The Conservatives have now published their "Uniting the Country" policy document. It makes an interesting starting point, and highlights a number of key issues. However, it does not delve deeply enough into the root cause of Islamic terrorism. Without a thorough understanding of the cause, you will struggle to develop an effective solution. Hiding behind bland or twisted analysis, for fear of being on the receiving end of a fatwa is not helpful for the future of Britain.

David Cameron has also made a speech recently around this subject.

The speech was bizarre however, in that he stated that the "racist" (meaning neo-Nazi) BNP is the mirror image of the Islamic extremists. This statement, needless to say, did not go down well with either Muslims or with Nationalists!

It is only seven months ago that the scales fell from my eyes, and I understood for the first time the truth about the deep-rooted violence at the heart of Islam. How had I been so blind for so long? Following swiftly on from that revelation was the realisation that we are now in a really deep mess here in Britain. It is not just the severe threat of terrorist acts, dirty bombs and mass poisoning that is to be feared. More insidious, but even more to be feared is the creeping Islamification of Britain. Perish the thought that Britain will one day become an Islamic state. This is our fate, unless some very bold action is taken right now.

The problem has been building up over many decades, and both Labour as well as Conservative Governments have done precious little to curb it. Churchill understood well the nature of the Islamic menace. We would not be in the mess we are in today, if sucessive Governments had heeded his wisdom. The significant quote by Churchill is given below.

In the past I have nearly always voted for the Conservatives, warts and all. This is because whenever Labour get into power they always make a terrible mess. How many defence contracts have they wantonly cancelled? TSR2, supersonic Harrier etc etc. They and their acolytes have destroyed British industry. I have also never trusted that grinning fool Blair, and I trust Gordon Brown even less.

I have voted for the Conservatives, warts and all, even though I do not agree with all their policies. For example, I am very much against cruelty to animals, and so I am against fox hunting. Banning it is at least one thing that Labour have done right.

I have not been particularly interested in politics, and could not bring myself to vote last time. I really could not picture Michael Howard as Prime Minister. There is a word to describe him, but I cannot recall what it is at present. "Smarmy" does not quite cover it.

David Cameron does have some potential however, but he must come to the painful realisation that it is not possible to be all things to all men. He needs to work out where he stands on a range of issues. He does not have the boldness or vision of Churchill, nor the strength of character of Thatcher. It is hard to match such giants however, but Cameron can learn to stand upon their shoulders.

Making puerile remarks about the "racist" (meaning neo-Nazi) BNP does him no credit whatsoever, and it is hard to see that there is any justification now for that label. Indeed, one of their councillors is Jewish, which would not be possible if Cameron's statement were true.

Indeed, there are certain parallels between Nazi and Islamic attitudes:

Both have an especial hatred of, and wish to exterminate Jews. Both spread their ideology by violent means where necessary. Both have a supremacist attitude. None of this applies to the BNP, as far as I can see.

Despite all of Labour's woes, the Conservatives are struggling to exceed 40 percent in the polls. This must be quite disconcerting. So, where are the votes going? According to The Daily Telegraph, they are going to the "Nationalist" parties, although the figure is not broken down into details. If the Conservatives are unable to understand the issue of the very real threat of the creeping Islamification of Britain, and state clearly their policy to tackle it, such voting trends will surely continue.

It may be that the Conservatives will not be able to form a majority government at the next election. Given that the electorate are now waking up to the truth about Islam, and are disgusted with the lack of real action by the mainstream parties, it is very probable that the BNP will make considerable strides. However strange it may seem, the Conservatives may well find that they must form a coalition with the BNP in the not too distant future. Puerile and ill-informed comments are not helpful.

The gathering storm clouds make for strange bedfellows. It would appear that an increasing number of homosexuals are considering the merits of the BNP. Not surprising however, given the severe penalties for homosexuals under Sharia law.

I am quite sure that everyone of good character wishes the best for the future of Britain. As Sharia law is introduced step by step, our traditional values are seriously eroded. This step by step appeasement will not solve the problem. Indeed, it emboldens those who wish to destroy us.

Both Labour and Conservative Governments share the responsibility for creating the mess that we are now in. Some humility is now long overdue. Confering with those who have been studying the problem for many years would be a useful step, even if it may be uncomfortable to admit your own errors.

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Churchill:

"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia (rabies) in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries; improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.

"A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

"Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.

"No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step. Were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome."

You do not need to take my word for it, or even Churchill's. Simply study the Faith Freedom website. It is produced by ex-Muslims:

www.faithfreedom.org

We in Britain must regain our self confidence to do the right thing, even if it is not popular in certain quarters. Appeasement is not an option. It did not work with the Nazis, and it does not work with Islam either.

Humanity needs peace not Islam.

Salman Rushdie: Yes, This Is About Islam

2007-02-01T13:06:00.000Z

I have posted this article a while ago, but it bears repetition, in case you missed it.

The article is by Salman Rushdie and was written in response to 9/11. It is still highly relevant.

This article and others are found here:

www.faithfreedom.org

Yes, This Is About Islam

By SALMAN RUSHDIE

LONDON -- "This isn't about Islam." The world's leaders have been repeating this mantra for weeks, partly in the virtuous hope of deterring reprisal attacks on innocent Muslims living in the West, partly because if the United States is to maintain its coalition against terror it can't afford to suggest that Islam and terrorism are in any way related.

The trouble with this necessary disclaimer is that it isn't true. If this isn't about Islam, why the worldwide Muslim demonstrations in support of Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda? Why did those 10,000 men armed with swords and axes mass on the Pakistan-Afghanistan frontier, answering some mullah's call to jihad? Why are the war's first British casualties three Muslim men who died fighting on the Taliban side?

Why the routine anti-Semitism of the much-repeated Islamic slander that "the Jews" arranged the hits on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, with the oddly self-deprecating explanation offered by the Taliban leadership, among others, that Muslims could not have the technological know-how or organizational sophistication to pull off such a feat? Why does Imran Khan, the Pakistani ex-sports star turned politician, demand to be shown the evidence of Al Qaeda's guilt while apparently turning a deaf ear to the self-incriminating statements of Al Qaeda's own spokesmen (there will be a rain of aircraft from the skies, Muslims in the West are warned not to live or work in tall buildings)? Why all the talk about American military infidels desecrating the sacred soil of Saudi Arabia if some sort of definition of what is sacred is not at the heart of the present discontents?

Of course this is "about Islam." The question is, what exactly does that mean? After all, most religious belief isn't very theological. Most Muslims are not profound Koranic analysts. For a vast number of "believing" Muslim men, "Islam" stands, in a jumbled, half-examined way, not only for the fear of God — the fear more than the love, one suspects — but also for a cluster of customs, opinions and prejudices that include their dietary practices; the sequestration or near-sequestration of "their" women; the sermons delivered by their mullahs of choice; a loathing of modern society in general, riddled as it is with music, godlessness and sex; and a more particularized loathing (and fear) of the prospect that their own immediate surroundings could be taken over — "Westoxicated" — by the liberal Western-style way of life.

Highly motivated organizations of Muslim men (oh, for the voices of Muslim women to be heard!) have been engaged over the last 30 years or so in growing radical political movements out of this mulch of "belief." These Islamists — we must get used to this word, "Islamists," meaning those who are engaged upon such political projects, and learn to distinguish it from the more general and politically neutral "Muslim" — include the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, the blood-soaked combatants of the Islamic Salvation Front and Armed Islamic Group in Algeria, the Shiite revolutionaries of Iran, and the Taliban. Poverty is their great helper, and the fruit of their efforts is paranoia. This paranoid Islam, which blames outsiders, "infidels," for all the ills of Muslim societies, and whose proposed remedy is the closing of those societies to the rival project of modernity, is presently the fastest growing version of Islam in the world.

This is not wholly to go along with Samuel Huntington's thesis about the clash of civilizations, for the simple reason that the Islamists' project is turned not only against the West and "the Jews," but also against their fellow Islamists. Whatever the public rhetoric, there's little love lost between the Taliban and Iranian regimes. Dissensions between Muslim nations run at least as deep, if not deeper, than those nations' resentment of the West. Nevertheless, it would be absurd to deny that this self-exculpatory, paranoiac Islam is an ideology with widespread appeal.

Twenty years ago, when I was writing a novel about power struggles in a fictionalized Pakistan, it was already de rigueur in the Muslim world to blame all its troubles on the West and, in particular, the United States. Then as now, some of these criticisms were well-founded; no room here to rehearse the geopolitics of the cold war and America's frequently damaging foreign policy "tilts," to use the Kissinger term, toward (or away from) this or that temporarily useful (or disapproved-of) nation-state, or America's role in the installation and deposition of sundry unsavory leaders and regimes. But I wanted then to ask a question that is no less important now: Suppose we say that the ills of our societies are not primarily America's fault, that we are to blame for our own failings? How would we understand them then? Might we not, by accepting our own responsibility for our problems, begin to learn to solve them for ourselves?

Many Muslims, as well as secularist analysts with roots in the Muslim world, are beginning to ask such questions now. In recent weeks Muslim voices have everywhere been raised against the obscurantist hijacking of their religion. Yesterday's hotheads (among them Yusuf Islam, a k a Cat Stevens) are improbably repackaging themselves as today's pussycats.

An Iraqi writer quotes an earlier Iraqi satirist: "The disease that is in us, is from us." A British Muslim writes, "Islam has become its own enemy." A Lebanese friend, returning from Beirut, tells me that in the aftermath of the attacks on Sept. 11, public criticism of Islamism has become much more outspoken. Many commentators have spoken of the need for a Reformation in the Muslim world.

I'm reminded of the way noncommunist socialists used to distance themselves from the tyrannical socialism of the Soviets; nevertheless, the first stirrings of this counterproject are of great significance. If Islam is to be reconciled with modernity, these voices must be encouraged until they swell into a roar. Many of them speak of another Islam, their personal, private faith.

The restoration of religion to the sphere of the personal, its depoliticization, is the nettle that all Muslim societies must grasp in order to become modern. The only aspect of modernity interesting to the terrorists is technology, which they see as a weapon that can be turned on its makers. If terrorism is to be defeated, the world of Islam must take on board the secularist-humanist principles on which the modern is based, and without which Muslim countries' freedom will remain a distant dream.

Salman Rushdie is the author, most recently, of "Fury: A Novel."

Humanity needs peace not Islam.

Policy Exchange report

2007-01-31T14:02:00.000Z

I have read the report by the Policy Exchange think tank ( www.policyexchange.org.uk ): "Living apart together - British Muslims and the paradox of multiculturalism".

In many ways it is an excellent report, presenting some much needed data in an authoratitive way. For example, 37 percent of 16 - 24 year olds would prefer to live under Sharia law, compared to 17 percent of 55+ year olds. If this trend continues, and there is no reason to believe that it will not, then we can expect an increase in the intensity of the demands for Sharia law to be introduced in the coming years.

The report also makes a number of very good points. For example, the political support over the years for multi-culturalism has been cited as a serious error. However, in itself, it does not explain why young Muslim men wish to become suicide bombers. We do not see young Hindus or Sikhs blowing themselves up together with innocent civilians, and so the promotion of multi-culturalism in itself does not explain the home-grown Islamic terrorist threat. Furthermore, logically following from this, even if multi-culturalism had not been encouraged, we can therefore also say that there would still be an Islamic terrorist threat. There must be another explanation.

The conflicts in various Islamic states (Afghanistan and Iraq principally) and the Israeli - Palestinian conflict are seen to exacerbate the problem of home-grown Islamic terrorists. However, this cannot be a root cause, since such conflicts have been going on for many years. In addition, we have not seen such an uprising or suicide bombings from other groups, such as Argentinians or those from Sierra Leone etc, where there have also been military actions. There must be another explanation.

Social depravation, poor housing, poor health and bad job prospects are also problems. However, these also affect other groups, such as Hindus and Sikhs, so in themselves they do not explain why we are seeing such a serious terrorist threat from the Muslim community. There is no such threat from other communities. Also, the London bombers had jobs, and were not living in poverty. There must be another explanation.

Not really touched on in the report is the very serious and increasingly numerous and severe attacks by "Asian" gangs, who are happy to murder and rape. The label "Asian" is very unfortunate, as it tars many innocent communities with the same brush. The media are very irresponsible for failing to give a true picture. Predominantly they are Muslim gangs. Why is it mainly Muslims involved, and not Hindus, Sikhs, Zoroastrians etc? There must be another explanation.

Why are Muslim women treated as second-class citizens by their Muslim "brothers"? Why is a woman's testimony worth only half of a man's testimony under Sharia law?

Why are homosexuals treated so appallingly by Muslims?

Why are Jews singled out for especial loathing by Muslims? Why have attacks on individuals increased so much, motivated by anti-Semitism? The Israeli - Palestinian conflict does not justify this. There must be another explanation.

The report by the Policy Exchange is good, so far as it goes. However, it fails to put its finger on the root cause of Islamic terrorism, or anti-Semitism, or the poor treatment of women and homosexuals, or give an explanation for the predominance of Muslim gangs. Read on for the true explanation. It is not "politically correct", but offers the only complete meaning to an otherwise baffling set of observations. If you cannot, or will not understand the root cause of a problem, you have very little probability of resolving it. When you have eliminated all the other possible factors, then what you have remaining must be the true cause of the problem.

The root of the problem is simply stated:

Whilst it is possible for individual (semi-apostate) Muslims to be moderate, unfortunately Islam itself, and more specifically the Quran are very far from being moderate. The Quran teaches violence towards non-Muslims, and especially towards Jews. Tolerance and integration are very distant from its true teachings. Furthermore, the Quran cannot be edited or modified to remove the violent, bloodthirsty and intolerant verses, which are at the heart of the matter.

That is it, in a nutshell. The evidence is to be found within the Quran itself. Here are some quotes.

First and foremost, it is vitally important to understand the concept of "abrogation". This means that the chronologically earlier verses are cancelled out, and superceeded by the chronologically later verses. The earlier verses are generally very tolerant, such as "there shall be no compulsion in religion". Unfortunately, the later verses are very intolerant and bloodthirsty. Furthermore, one single later verse can abrogate numerous earlier verses.

Here is the verse that describes abrogation:

"Whatever communications We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring one better than it or like it. Do you not know that Allah has power over all things?" Quran 2.106

As an aside: The Bible is also abrogated by the Quran.

Secondly, there is the matter of honesty. Within Judaism and Christianity there is the injunction to be truthful, as one of the ten commandments states:

"Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour." Exodus 20:16

"Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother." Mark 10:19

Unfortunately, Islam is not like this. Indeed, within the Hadiths we see that it is perfectly permissible to tell a lie, particularly to confuse the enemies of Islam:

"Whenever I tell you a narration from Allah's Apostle, by Allah, I would rather fall down from the sky than ascribe a false statement to him, but if I tell you something between me and you (not a Hadith) then it was indeed a trick (i.e., I may say things just to cheat my enemy)." Hadith Volume 9, Book 84, Number 64

Taking these two points together therefore, a Muslim can argue, seemingly convincingly, that Islam is peaceful, by quoting numerous very tolerant verses. What he is dishonestly avoiding to tell you is that most, if not all of such verses have been abrogated. It is vitally important to understand these points.

Note that the Hadiths are a collection of writings. They are the sayings of Mohammed, effectively his biography.

Thirdly, the word "Islam" does not mean "peace". Instead it is derived from the Arabic word "al-silm" meaning "submission" or "surrender". If you are a prisoner, and do not submit and convert to Islam, it is highly likely that you will be beheaded.

The attitude of Islam towards women is appalling, demonstrated by the following quotes.

The intelligence of women is belittled by Mohammed:

'Then he passed by the women and said, "O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women)." They asked, "Why is it so, O Allah's Apostle ?" He replied, "You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you.' Hadith 1 6 301

Women are treated as property, and have no say over the usage of their own body:

"Your wives are a tilth for you, so go into your tilth when you like" Quran 2.223

Women slaves (those whom your right hand possesses) can be raped with impunity:

"O Prophet! surely We have made lawful to you your wives whom you have given their dowries, and those whom your right hand possesses out of those whom Allah has given to you as prisoners of war" Quran 33.50

Integration of Muslims with any other community is impossible:

"Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends rather than believers; and whoever does this, he shall have nothing of (the guardianship of) Allah, but you should guard yourselves against them, guarding carefully; and Allah makes you cautious of (retribution from) Himself; and to Allah is the eventual coming." Quran 3.28

"O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil)." Quran 9.123

There is an especial hatred of Jews:

"Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' " " Hadith Volume 4, Book 52, Number 176:

"Wherefore for the iniquity of those who are Jews did We disallow to them the good things which had been made lawful for them and for their hindering many (people) from Allah's way. And their taking usury though indeed they were forbidden it and their devouring the property of people falsely, and We have prepared for the unbelievers from among them a painful chastisement." Quran 4.160-161

Anybody who is a non-Muslim is a target:

"O Prophet! urge the believers to war; if there are twenty patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundred, and if there are a hundred of you they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they are a people who do not understand." Quran 8.65

There is a supremacist attitude:

"Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection." Quran 9.29

The punishment for questioning Islam is severe:

"They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper." Quran 4.89

The Quran itself glorifies terrorism. ( Is that not illegal now? )

"When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them." Quran 8.12

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We can clearly see that these bloodthirsty and intolerant verses are as relevant today as when they were written many centuries ago. This is demonstrated by the Channel 4 Dispatches programme "Undercover Mosque", broadcast on the 15th January 2007.

A Dispatches reporter attends mosques run by organisations whose public faces are presented as moderate and finds preachers condemning integration into British society, condemning democracy and praising the Taliban for killing British soldiers.

Here are some extracts from the transcript of the programme:

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Abu Usamah: We want the laws of Islam to be practised, we want to do away with the man-made laws

Abu Usamah: No-one loves the kuffaar, no-one loves the kuffaar, not a single person here from the Muslims loves the kuffaar, whether those kuffaar are from the UK or the US. We love the people of Islam and we hate the people of kufr, we hate the kuffaar

Abu Usamah: He’s better than a million George Bushes, Osama Bin Laden, and he’s better than a thousand Tony Blairs, because he’s a Muslim

Abu Usamah: Whoever changes his religion from Islam to anything else – kill him in the Islamic state

Abu Usamah: Verily Allah going to bring a group of people that he loves and they love him, these people will who will be soft and kind to the believers and they will be rough and tough against the kuffaar, they will fight in the cause of Allah

I encourage all of you to be from amongst them, to begin to cultivate ourselves for the time that is fast approaching where the tables are going to turn and the Muslims are going to be in the position of being uppermost in strength, and when that happens, people won’t get killed – unjustly

Grand Mufti: This is not true. Jews and Christians who do not follow the Prophet Mohammed are kuffaar. They will go to hell

In a DVD of a conference at Green Lane Mosque, a preacher called Sheikh Al-Jibali says Muslim children should be kept away from non-Muslims

Abu Usamah: Allah has created the woman, even if she gets a Phd, deficient. Her intellect is incomplete, deficient. She may be suffering from hormones that will make her emotional. It takes two witnesses of a woman to equal the one witness of the man

Abu Usamah: Do you practise homosexuality with men? Take that homosexual man and throw him off the mountain

Lord Ahmed recently said he would ask the Lord Chancellor to meet an organisation called the Islamic Shari’ah Council, including its Secretary General, a preacher called Sheikh Suhaib Hasan The meeting would be to discuss the introduction of Islamic divorce laws into the UK constitution

Sh Hasan: The chopping of the hands of the thieves, the flogging of the adulterers and flogging of the drunkards

Sheikh Feiz: The peak, the pinnacle, the crest, the highest point, the pivot, the summit, of Islam, is jihad

We want to have children and offer them as soldiers defending Islam. Teach them this, there is nothing more beloved to me than wanting to die as a mujahid, put in their soft tender hearts the zeal of jihad and the love of martyrdom

Al Faisal cassette: You have to bomb the Indian businesses, and as for the Jews you kill them physically

The rulings say Muslims in the West must have “an attitude of enmity and hatred of the kaffirs …. all of the kuffaar are the enemies of the Muslims”…

Sh Yasin: This whole delusion of the equality of women is a bunch of foolishness…. There’s no such thing

Dr Mian: King, Queen, House of Commons. If you accept it, you are a part of it. You don’t accept it, you have to dismantle it. So you being a Muslim you have to fix a target, there will be no House of Commons. From that White House to this Black House, we know that we have to dismantle it

Dr Mian: You are in a situation in which you have to live like a state within a state, until you take over. But until this happens, you have to preach, until you become such a force that the people they just submit to you, hands up, until you become strong enough to take over

Never will the Jews and Christians be happy with you until you follow their way, and their system and their way of life. Call the people to avoid and renounce the way of the Jews and the Christians, which is the way of freedom, which is the way of equality, which is the way of democracy

Deputy head: And they’ve got all these people, all these organisations talking about it, let’s be “democratic”. And I disagree with using the word democracy. They should call it according to the Islamic understanding of the word, which is kuffrocracy, kuffrocracy that’s their plan. It’s the hidden, cancerous aim of these people

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What gives Muslims the right to avoid scrutiny? If we are seeking the truth about Islam, then it is quite possible that someone will try to attach the label "Islamophobic" to us. An honest researcher should not be labelled in this way. In other words, do not shoot the messenger. Quoting from the Policy Exchange report:

"An integral aspect of this liberal model is the right to cause offence and criticise other people’s cultures. Today, with increased sensitivities about Islamophobia, many Muslims feel entitled to have their religious views and identity protected. Their attitudes towards women, homosexuality, or politics are seen to be so inalienable that they are out of bounds for criticism." page 89

Nevertheless, I do have the impression that the authors of the report are holding back. They surely know more than they wish to state at this stage. Self-censorship is entirely understandable, if somewhat unhelpful. Nobody wishes to have a fatwa against them, and have to go into hiding, as happened to Salman Rushdie. Nobody wishes to be murdered, as happened to Theo van Gough. Freedom of speech and freedom of expression are already severely curbed due to the pressure from Muslims. We have no hope of tackling the Islamic menace, if we are prevented from debating it.

Two hundred years ago, slavery was abolished due to the efforts of William Wilberforce and other Christians. Today it is estimated that there are five times as many slaves in the world than in the time of Wilberforce. Much of this slavery is in Islamic states. We must do what we can for them, but no less importantly, we must do what we can to free the minds of those who are amongst us from enslavement to the Quran. It is harmful to them, and harmful to the rest of society also.

Churchill understood well the Islamic menace. It is sobering to consider that if suceeding politicians, both Labour and Conservative had understood the truth as he did, then we very probably would have avoided the Islamic menace that is now within our shores.

Blair is either confused or is dishonest:

"The most remarkable thing about reading the Koran – in so far as it can be truly translated from the original Arabic - is to understand how progressive it is. "

Churchill:

"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia (rabies) in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries; improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.

"A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

"Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.

"No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step. Were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome."

You do not need to take my word for it, or even Churchill's. Simply study the Faith Freedom website. It is produced by ex-Muslims:

www.faithfreedom.org

We in Britain must regain our self confidence to do the right thing, even if it is not popular in certain quarters. Appeasement is not an option. It did not work with the Nazis, and it does not work with Islam either.

Humanity needs peace not Islam.

Further points regarding David Cameron's horse meat

2007-01-29T10:59:00.000Z

This message has been posted onto the "Web Cameron" website:

www.webcameron.org.uk

Please go to that website and add your vote, and hopefully these points will be answered by the man himself.

The hypocrisy of the Labour Government is clear in many ways. For example, Cabinet Ministers are quite happy to send their own children to fee-paying schools, whilst seriously eroding the educational opportunities of bright children from poorer backgrounds.

Now consider the very real harm caused by another form of discrimination promoted by this Labour Government: This is Halal slaughter.

If a non-Muslim were to slaughter an animal by slitting its throat, they would, quite rightly, be arrested and prosecuted for cruelty to animals. That the very same act committed by a Muslim should be legal, is simply bizarre. What a mad state of affairs we have got ourselves into.

The fact that Bristol University is carrying out research on pre-stunning for Halal slaughter would imply that pre-stunning is not currently applied universally.

Mine is not a lone voice crying in the wilderness. Here is a letter in The Daily Telegraph of 25th January 2007, which neatly makes a link between Catholic adoption and ritual slaughter.

Sir,
The Lord Chancellor's position is that there can be no exceptions from a law on the basis of religious beliefs. But there already are. The law requires animals for slaughter to be rendered unconscious, by stunning or other means, before being killed. However, both Jewish and Muslim ritual slaughter is exempt on the grounds of religious requirements.
Sam Levy
London SW11

I suspect that the way this issue will play out is that Catholics will continue to run their adoption service, not for the reason that it is providing a positive benefit, but because this Labour Government will be spooked by the logical next step of banning Halal slaughter. Labour have an unhealthy reliance on the Muslim vote. There have also been a number of abuses of the postal voting system.

British values once encompassed truthfulness, honesty, and decency. Where have they gone? How ironic that this Labour Government are paying lip service to such values, when they themselves clearly fall far short.

A further example of Labour hypocrisy is that they have banned fox hunting, on the grounds of cruelty, whilst turning a blind eye to the avoidable cruelty of Halal slaughter, which affects a far larger number of animals.

Personally I am against fox hunting, even though I lost a pet hen to a fox many years ago. It was my own fault for not checking that they were all secure overnight. One strayed.

Pragmatically, the Conservatives will loose many votes if they make the restoration of fox hunting an election promise. They will also lay themselves open to the charge of hypocrisy, for being concerned for the welfare of horses but not foxes. In any case, the size of the fox population is primarily limited by the available food supply, not by hunting.

We must stop the cruelty to animals however it occurs, even if that is not popular in certain quarters. The abolition of slavery was not universally popular, yet it was the right thing to do.

At this time of Holocaust memorial, we must realise that mans inhumanity to animals is the first step towards mans inhumanity to man.

Humanity needs peace not Islam.

Labour intolerance

2007-01-26T12:00:00.000Z

At the present time the Labour Government is pointing a finger at the Catholic Church, and shouting "intolerance". Why?

For many years, the Catholic Church has provided a very sucessful adoption service in Britain, placing and supporting a quarter of the total number of children, around 1000 per annum.

The Labour Government has been busy creating a blizzard of new legislation, much of it ill-conceived, with little thought about unintended consequences. The current disaster is a proposed law preventing discrimination. Theoretically this is a good thing, however, there are consequences. The Catholic Church has stated that it will discontinue their adoption service, as their conscience will not permit them to place children with practising homosexuals. Labour compounds their stupidity, by assuming that the Catholic Church is bluffing, but not everyone is motivated by ego and self agrandisement, in the way that certain individuals associted with the Labour party appear to be. Remember the ongoing cash for honours fiasco. It appears that Labour are suffering from snow-blindness of their own creation.

As an aside, Labour have an inability to avoid meddling, where things worked well enough already. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!" We only have to think of the current constitutional crisis as an example. Typical Socialists: They make a mess, then blame everyone else for the ensuing chaos. Blame the Scottish Nationalist Party. Blame the English. Blame the Conservatives indeed! Surely the English are discriminated against, as our vote is now worth less than that of the Scottish voters? Strange that only English scoolchildren are being taught "Britishness". It is no wonder that so many are seeking the asylum of the British Isles: The lunatics have been in charge of the asylum for ten years.

Getting back to the main point about intolerance: The Labour Government is strongly critical of the Catholic Church, because of its apparent discrimination, when all that the Church is trying to do is for the best interests of the children.

However, Labour are perfectly happy to permit various forms of very harmful discrimination. Two examples that come to mind, are positive discrimination in the workplace, and Halal slaughter.

Giving someone a job or a promotion primarily due to their gender or ethnicity is very harmful. It is harmful to the more able candidates, who did not get the job. It is harmful to the employer, who has to carry someone who is not as capable. It is harmful for the person who has been promoted, as they may feel stressed up, and struggle to fulfill the role. It is harmful to other employees, who will certainly feel sidelined, and despairing of their own career prospects, which becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Positive discrimination is very obviously bad all round. Why cannot Labour see this? It is simply common sense.

Of course, once an employer has taken someone on under these circumstances, they cannot then sack them should the need arise. I have seen this with my own eyes:

Very briefly: One manager in my workplace had clearly been over-promoted, and was clearly not fulfilling his role. However, nobody was ever sacked for incompetence, so that in itself was not surprising. Unfortunately, this individual also had a habit of harassing female staff, who mostly did not appreciate his advances. Several resigned or moved to other departments. After a considerable delay this particular manager was pushed to one side, no doubt retaining a generous salary. What should have happened of course is that the matter should have been tackled much sooner. He should have been given a warning, and if the disruptive behaviour then persisted, he should have been sacked. That such action was not taken was probably due to his ethnic origin. Then the error was compounded by keeping him in a non-job, presumably to avoid the cost of a racial discrimination dispute, which would be costly in terms of lawyers fees and compensation, but also costly in terms of the ensuing negative publicity. It was clearly less costly to continue paying him a salary to do virtually nothing. What a mad state of affairs we have got ourselves into.

Of course, the vast bulk of employers, comprising small businesses, simply cannot afford to pay someone a salary to do nothing. The unintended consequences of Labour's positive discrimination attitude has been the exact reverse of the desired effect. It is a very brave employer who takes on someone who is likely to accuse them of racism at the earliest opportunity. What a mad state of affairs we have got ourselves into.

You may be automatically assuming that I am a racist for pointing out these truths. However, I can state that over the years I have had a number of very good and genuine frendships with people who are of different ethnic origins than myself.

Now consider the very real harm caused by another form of discrimination promoted by this Labour Government: This is Halal slaughter.

If a non-Muslim were to slaughter an animal by slitting its throat, they would, quite rightly, be arrested and prosecuted for cruelty to animals. That the very same act comitted by a Muslim should be legal, is simply bizarre. What a mad state of affairs we have got ourselves into.

Mine is not a lone voice crying in the wilderness. Here is a letter in The Daily Telegraph of 25th January 2007, which neatly makes a link between Catholic adoption and ritual slaughter.

Sir,
The Lord Chancellor's position is that there can be no exceptions from a law on the basis of religious beliefs. But there already are. The law requires animals for slaughter to be rendered unconscious, by stunning or other means, before being killed. However, both Jewish and Muslim ritual slaughter is exempt on the grounds of religious requirements.
Sam Levy
London SW11

I suspect that the way this issue will play out is that Catholics will continue to run their adoption service, not for the reason that it is providing a positive benefit, but because this Labour Government will be spooked by the logical next step of banning Halal slaughter. Labour have an unhealthy reliance on the Muslim vote. There have also been a number of abuses of the postal voting system.

British values once encompassed truthfulness, honesty, and decency. Where have they gone?

Humanity needs peace not Islam.

David Cameron's horse meat

2007-01-25T12:05:00.000Z

This message has been posted onto the "Web Cameron" website:

www.webcameron.org.uk

Please go to that website and add your vote, and hopefully these points will be answered by the man himself.

David Cameron has consistently campaigned against the live export of horses for horsemeat.

His concern for the welfare of animals is greatly to be applauded. We in Britain are a nation of animal lovers, and it is encumbent on us all to oppose all cruelty to animals, however it occurs.

Can the Conservatives now turn their attention to the completely avoidable cruelty of ritual slaughter? A quarter of sheep are slaughtered in Britain for Halal meat.

According to the Farm Animal Welfare Council, an animal that is slaughtered by having its throat cut can suffer for up to two minutes.

"Such a drastic cut will inevitably trigger a barrage of sensory information to the brain in a sensible (conscious) animal. We are persuaded that such a massive injury would result in very significant pain and distress in the period before insensibility supervenes."

Bristol University has carried out studies using pre-stunning, which ought to be acceptable to faith communities. There can therefore be no justification for continuing with the current cruel practice.

It is quite correct to be concerned about cruelty to horses. However, cruelty to sheep and cattle should be no less a concern, particularly as it is happening on a much greater scale.

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Washington -- The House overwhelmingly approved a bill Thursday (7th September 2006) banning the transport and slaughter of horses for human consumption, which would end a practice critics label inhumane that was first outlawed by California voters in 1998.

Lawmakers of both parties voted 263-146 for the measure, which aims to shut down three foreign-owned plants in the United States that slaughter horses and ship the meat to countries such as France, Belgium, Holland, Italy and Japan, where it is served at upscale restaurants as a delicacy.

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Witney MP David Cameron Slams Minister Over ‘‘Passports for Horses’’

David Cameron, Conservative MP for Witney, today used foreign affairs questions in the House Commons to raise the EU decision that all horses, donkeys and ponies within the European Union must carry passports.

David said:

‘‘This is a complete bureaucratic nonsense. Why on earth should owners of horses, donkeys and ponies suddenly have to carry passports and handle all sorts of extra paperwork?’’

‘‘It is hard to believe that the Government has signed up to this madness from Brussels and I have put down questions to clarify the situation. But by understanding is that the Government support the scheme and are all set to implement it.’’

In his question to the Minister of state for foreign affairs (MP for Rotherham, Dennis MacShane), David said:

‘‘Is the Minister aware that EU Directive 2000/68 requires all horses, donkeys and ponies in the EU to carry passports – at all times? Is he aware that this has come about because of French concerns about equine drugs entering the food chain? Does he agree with me that British horse owners should not be saddled with extra paperwork just to satisfy rather unsatisfactory Gallic eating habits?

David concluded:

‘‘Will the Minister reflect on the fact that while the Government seems prepared to take huge steps to stop horses crossing continents, virtually nothing is being done to deal with the shambolic asylum system.’’

‘‘The proposal for horse passports (the Eu refers to them as either ‘‘Equids’’ or ‘‘Equidae’’) is a classic example of a Euro-farce.

It is unnecessary. While cattle have passports, they do not include any information about drugs. Sheep and Pigs, which are eaten in far greater number, do not have passports at all.

It is illogical. Even after the decision is implemented the French will continue to import horses for eating from countries outside the EU, which do not have a passport system at all.

David concluded:

‘‘Like many such Euro-farces there has been far too little debate and it would seem that there is not a great deal we can do about it. But it is an example of bureaucracy gone mad and I will do what I can to make sure the Government sees sense.’’

‘‘In a week we discover that the asylum system is in disarray, with tens of thousands disappearing every year, we find out where the Government is really getting tough. That’s right. On horse, donkeys, ponies – and their owners. What a farce.’’

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Witney MP calls on Government to continue ban on export of live horses for Horsemeat in Europe. - 01/04/2004

David Cameron, MP for Witney, spoke in a debate in the House of Commons to back the campaign to keep the ban on the export of live horses from the United Kingdom to Europe.

A copy of his speech is attached. At present there are ‘minimum value rules’ which effectively prevent the export of horses from the UK for the meat trade.

The Government is proposing to end these rules by agreeing to a European Directive that would regulate the transport of live horses throughout Europe. While these might improve conditions for horses transported between other EU countries, they could re-start an export trade between the United Kingdom and continental Europe.

David explained:

“I support moves to improve welfare standards for the transport of horses. But the United Kingdom should maintain its current ban on the export of horses. We can do this – but only if the Minister stands up for the United Kingdom and doesn’t give in.”

David continued:

“I strongly opposed the compulsory horse passports which the Government has now introduced. I am very worried that, combined with ending the ban on live exports, the two laws will mean that for some unfortunate horses this is introducing a ‘have passport, will travel’ situation.

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Humanity needs peace not Islam.

EU: Turkish Accession

2007-01-24T10:41:00.000Z

House of Lords debate "EU: Turkish Accession" took place on the 22nd January 2007.

Here is an extract from Hansard:

The Lord Bishop of Manchester: My Lords, the first Armenian church in this country was founded in Manchester. Will the Minister advise Members of this House where the Government stand in relation to discussions with Turkey over the Armenian genocide, when those discussions were last held and whether the Government have any intention of raising the matter further during the negotiations for Turkey’s entry into the EU?

Lord Triesman: My Lords, I start with the most significant part of the right reverend Prelate’s question. For this Government, recognition of the so-called Armenian genocide is not a condition of Turkey’s membership of the EU. I wish to be straightforward and clear about that. Neither this Government nor previous British Governments have judged that the evidence is sufficiently unequivocal to persuade us that these events should be characterised as genocide under the 1948 UN convention on genocide.

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There are ongoing human rights abuses in Turkey. The Kurdish question, and the future for Cypress remain unresolved. It seems foolish in the extreme to be considering its possible membership of the EU.

Even discussing the potential for EU membership is destabilising Turkey itself.

Turkey is far more useful as a buffer state between the Christian and the Islamic world, than it is as a full member of the EU.

See my blog posting "A Possible Solution for Iraq" for more details.

Humanity needs peace not Islam.

Gordon Brown Inspired

2007-01-23T11:27:00.000Z

So, Gordon Brown is inspired by Ghandi and by Churchill.

Ghandi:

"What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy?"

and

"As soon as we lose the moral basis, we cease to be religious. There is no such thing as religion over-riding morality. Man, for instance, cannot be untruthful, cruel or incontinent and claim to have God on his side."

and

"[If] India is divided she will be lost forever. Therefore...if India is to remain undivided, Hindus and Moslems must live together in brotherly love, not in hostile camps organized either for defensive action or retaliation."

and

"[The demand for Pakistan] as put forth by the Moslem League is un-Islamic and I have not hesitated to call it sinful. Islam stands for unity and the brotherhood of mankind, not for disrupting the oneness of the human family. Therefore, those who want to divide India into possibly warring groups are enemies alike of India and Islam. They may cut me into pieces but they cannot make me subscribe to something which I consider to be wrong [...] we must not cease to aspire, in spite of [the] wild talk, to befriend all Moslems and hold them fast as prisoners of our love"

Churchill:

"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia (rabies) in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries; improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.

"A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

"Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.

"No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step. Were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome."

Humanity needs peace not Islam.

Undercover Mosque Transcript

2007-01-22T09:57:00.000Z

Here is the transcript of the Channel 4 Dispatches programme.

We should not be surprised by the findings, since the preaching is very much in line with the Quran and Hadiths. However, you may not be aware that this is so, if you have not understood the concept of abrogation.

Given that a quarter of Muslims in Britain are sympathetic towards the London bombers, it would seem probable that they would also be susceptible to this kind of preaching. The comment at the end of the program may well be true:

"Haras Rafiq: The radicalising power of this ideology is extremely dangerous. We are losing our children to extremists
Hakim Murad: I regard what the Saudis are doing in the ghettoes of British Islam as potentially lethal for the future of the community "

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PART ONE

Tonight on Dispatches – an ideology of bigotry and intolerance spreading through Britain

with its roots in Saudi Arabia

Sheikh Yasin: We Muslims have been ordered to do brainwashing

- on women’s rights

Abu Usamah: Allah has created the woman deficient

Sh Jibali: If she doesn’t wear hijab, we hit her

- gay rights

Abu Usamah: take that homosexual man and throw him from the mountain

- living in a multicultural society

Dr Mian: You have to live like a state within a state until you take over

- and holy war

Sh Feiz: The peak, the pinnacle, the crest, the summit, of Islam, is jihad

TITLES

A Dispatches investigation has uncovered a fundamentalist message, spreading from the Saudi Arabia religious establishment

through mosques run by major UK organisations

which claim to be dedicated to moderation and to dialogue with other faiths

Green Lane Mosque in Birmingham is a high-profile mosque

- and one we’d heard receives theological guidance from Saudi Arabia

Caption: Undercover filming

Our reporter went undercover last summer, joining thousands of worshippers

He’s staying anonymous

Caption: 12 August 2006

The theme of today’s lecture is – don’t believe in the arrests of alleged terrorists without proof

… as non Muslims are liars

Abu Usamah: I don’t believe them, because they are kuffaar, lying is part of their religion

Kuffaar is an Arabic word, meaning non-believer – an infidel

Abu Usamah: Unlike those kuffaar, they do whatever they want to do

It’s a term our reporter was to hear repeatedly being used in a derogatory way

Abu Usamah: they are liars, they are terrorists themselves, liars, they will come before the people and talk and they are lying, you can’t believe them, these are pathological liars

Shots of Green Lane website

Green Lane Mosque calls itself a “centre for interfaith communication”, welcoming people of all religions

But our reporter filmed there over four months, and found this speaker, Abu Usamah, was their main English-language preacher

He says Christians and Jews are enemies to Muslims

Abu Usamah: It has come to pass that the Christians and the Jews, America, the UK, France, Germany, they have come against the religion of Islam. Why give up your religion and your long legacy of Islam, to please someone who is an enemy to you?

Abu Usamah is an American convert

and a very popular speaker at Green Lane

Abu Usamah (shaking hands with everyone): Hey, my man, how you doing?

He preaches against non-Muslim laws

Abu Usamah: We want the laws of Islam to be practised, we want to do away with the man-made laws

And says British popular culture is a threat

Abu Usamah: The popular culture, if you are a person who gives yourself to that, your mind is going to be controlled by the so-called powers that be, who make these man-made laws

Green Lane’s official website says the mosque is “designed to counter the negative publicity and stereotyping of Islam”

But after a few weeks, our reporter was told by fellow worshippers how to access another, much more difficult-to-find internet chatroom

It’s run by Green Lane Mosque, and broadcasts Abu Usamah’s speeches live to a small band of listeners

He says Muslims should obey British laws and contracts, if they don’t contradict Islam, but he condemns non-believers

Caption: Green Lane internet broadcast

Abu Usamah: No-one loves the kuffaar, no-one loves the kuffaar, not a single person here from the Muslims loves the kuffaar, whether those kuffaar are from the UK or the US. We love the people of Islam and we hate the people of kufr, we hate the kuffaar

Filmed undercover, he says he doesn’t agree with the violent actions of Muslim terrorists - but he prefers them to non-Muslims

Abu Usamah: I don’t agree with those individuals, but at the same time they are closer to me than those criminals of the kufr

Cap: Green Lane internet broadcast

Abu Usamah: He’s better than a million George Bushes, Osama Bin Laden, and he’s better than a thousand Tony Blairs, because he’s a Muslim

The mosque films some of Abu Usamah’s speeches, and they’re sold locally as DVDs

Caption: The Major Sins: Ahlus Sunnah Productions (2005)

In this one, he says even Muslims who don’t follow their strict rules can be ostracised as “kaffirs”

Abu Usamah: If you leave off the prayer out of negligence, then you are a kaffir. If he dies like that you have to bury him with the kuffaar. You can’t marry him

He preaches an ideal Islamic state

Abu Usamah: Muslims shouldn’t satisfied with living in other than the total Islamic state

His vision of the Islamic state includes extreme punishments, as he outlines in this DVD

DVD: The Major Sins: Ahlus Sunnah Productions (2005)

Abu Usamah: Whoever changes his religion from Islam to anything else – kill him in the Islamic state

The religious leader, or imam, can decide the punishments

Internet broadcast

Abu Usamah: If the imam wants to crucify him, he should crucify him. The person is put up on the wood and he is left there to bleed to death for three days

Abu Usamah condemns the Western interpretation of free speech, which means the Prophet can be insulted, but he can be censored

Abu Usamah: If I were to call homosexuals perverted, dirty, filthy dogs, that should be murdered, that’s my freedom of speech isn’t it? But they’ll say no, I’m not tolerant, but they feel that it’s OK to say something about the Prophet?

Our reporter has found these views being regularly preached at the head mosque of a major Muslim organisation

Green Lane Mosque, Birmingham, is the headquarters of the Markazi Jamiat Ahl-e-Hadith, a registered charity which runs over 40 mosques and branches as well as Islamic schools

It’s an influential affiliate of the Muslim Council of Britain, which has praised it as “a national body”, “respected for its educational and outreach programmes”

But our reporter secretly filmed Abu Usamah teaching that a “jihad” is coming against the unbelievers

Abu Usamah: Verily Allah going to bring a group of people that he loves and they love him, these people will who will be soft and kind to the believers and they will be rough and tough against the kuffaar, they will fight in the cause of Allah

I encourage all of you to be from amongst them, to begin to cultivate ourselves for the time that is fast approaching where the tables are going to turn and the Muslims are going to be in the position of being uppermost in strength, and when that happens, people won’t get killed – unjustly

After a few weeks, our reporter learns that Green Lane worshippers get regular religious instruction, direct from Saudi Arabia

Live, two-way video links are set up

Projected onto the wall is the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia

Caption: Saudi state television

He’s the country’s top religious leader– now being beamed live to worshippers in Birmingham

They ask questions through an interpreter, and get fatwas – religious rulings (CHK?)

By now, our reporter has become a regular at the mosque

The man who supervises the video links tells him they’ve recorded them

Man: We actually record them onto DVDs.

Reporter: You do?

Man: What we’ll do is, whatever the cost is of the DVDs you just contribute to that and it’s not a problem

And our reporter is given them

Man: These are the masters, whatever you want to do is fine

The DVDs show a Birmingham worshipper, who asks the Grand Mufti for a fatwa about understanding between Muslims and other religions

CAPTION: Saudi Broadcast, June 2006

Question: Some people say we shouldn’t call Christians and Jews kuffaar, and we should establish dialogue and good relations with them. What’s your answer to this?

His answer is uncompromising

Grand Mufti: This is not true. Jews and Christians who do not follow the Prophet Mohammed are kuffaar. They will go to hell

He says Muslims can’t help non-believers

Grand Mufti: Anyone who helps or defends an apostate, or a pagan, or an atheist, or anyone who attacks Islam, will be cursed

Green Lane Mosque is spreading a brand of Islam originating in Saudi Arabia – often known as Wahhabism

It’s an hardline theology, opposed by many British Muslims

Academic Dr Irfan Al Alawi investigates Wahhabism

He keeps his face hidden in interviews because of the dangers of his work

ASTON: Dr Irfan Al Alawi

Islamic Heritage Foundation

Dr Irfan Al Alawi: Wahhabis believe that you cannot show tolerance to other religions, so the religion of Islam has to rule the world. Green Lane in Birmingham, that mosque is one of the extreme Wahhabi centres in the UK

Caption: Saudi TV

Wahhabism is opposed to the traditional, tolerant beliefs of classical Islam, according to leading Muslim academic Abdal Hakim Murad

CAPTION: Abdal Hakim Murad

University of Cambridge

Hakim Murad: Its principle is totalitarian, it’s highly judgemental, it has no track record of dealing with other sorts of Islam or with unbelievers with any kind of respect. If you are outside the small circle of the true believers you are going to hell and therefore you should be treated with contempt

Non-believers are called “kaffirs” or “kuffaar”

It’s a term they use as an insult, according to moderate British Muslims like Dr Taj Hargey

ASTON: Dr Taj Hargey

Muslim Educational Centre of Oxford

Dr Taj Hargey: The word kaffir is a very pejorative, negative, disparaging term. When you call someone a kaffir, they are not worthy to be associated with. This kind of intolerance is something that gives rise to extremists

Many children were present at the Green Lane lectures our reporter filmed, where intolerance and bigotry were openly preached

In a DVD of a conference at Green Lane Mosque, a preacher called Sheikh Al-Jibali says Muslim children should be kept away from non-Muslims

Caption: Preparing to Stand Before Allah: Ahlus Sunnah Productions (2004)

Sheikh Al Jibali: What is sad to see is that many parents they send children to the kuffaar schools, they allow them to mix with the kuffaar, so that the lifestyle and beliefs of the kuffaar become deep rooted in the hearts of the kids

In a fatwa given in the video links, the Grand Mufti says children should be hit if they don’t pray

Saudi Broadcast, May 2006

Grand Mufti: Tell your children to pray when they are seven, and hit them when they are ten

The Ahl-e-Hadith’s website directs readers to literature which says “Islam confers equal rights upon all”, regardless of sex

But in a crackly internet broadcast, Abu Usamah says women are “deficient”

Green Lane Internet broadcast

Abu Usamah: Allah has created the woman, even if she gets a Phd, deficient. Her intellect is incomplete, deficient. She may be suffering from hormones that will make her emotional. It takes two witnesses of a woman to equal the one witness of the man

Saudi-based clerics in the video links preach male supremacy

Caption: Saudi broadcast May 2006

Sheikh: Khunayn: Men are in charge of women. Wherever he goes she should follow him and she shouldn’t be allowed leave the house without his permission

Sheikh Al Jibali says the hijab must be enforced on young girls, if necessary with violence

Caption: Preparing to Stand Before Allah: Ahlus Sunnah Productions (2004)

Al Jibali:. By the age of ten, it becomes an obligation on us to force her to wear hijab, and if she doesn’t wear hijab, we hit her

Our reporter secretly filmed this preacher, Dr Bilal Philips, giving religious rulings at Green Lane

In a speech in the mosque, which was also broadcast in its internet chatroom, he claims marrying off a girl before puberty is permissible

He claims the Prophet Mohammed married a nine year old girl, so it’s permissible now

Dr Bilal Philips: The Prophet Mohammed practically outlined the rules regarding marriage prior to puberty, with his practice he clarified what is permissible and that is why we shouldn’t have any issues about an older man marrying a younger woman, which is looked down upon by this society today, but we know that Prophet Mohammed practised it, it wasn’t abuse or exploitation, it was marriage

RIGHT TO REPLY LIKELY FROM DR PHILIPS

Abu Usamah quotes what he says are the words of a companion of the Prophet, on the Islamic punishment for homosexuality

Abu Usamah: Do you practise homosexuality with men? Take that homosexual man and throw him off the mountain

And in a DVD, he attacks the idea of gay rights

DVD: Preparing to Stand Before Allah: Ahlus Sunnah Productions (2004)

Abu Usamah: They have given them unprecedented rights, so that your child can be exposed and introduced to lesbians. Now they say, if you discriminate against them, you are going to jail

He says Muslims should discriminate

Abu Usamah: We’ll discriminate, but we’ll discriminate in a way where we don’t get in trouble. The Muslim is a dentist and one of those people comes I’m going to take a big needle and stick it in his gum

Then he says it’s a joke, as it might get the mosque in trouble

Abu Usamah: They’ll take this and get us all in trouble

On the anniversary of the 7th of July bombings, a speech by Abu Usamah was broadcast in the Green Lane chatroom, condemning terrorism

Green Lane Internet Broadcast

Abu Usamah: We want to make an official statement here, no way are we in agreement to what took place last year on this day in the kuffaar calendar

But he does believe in jihad

Abu Usamah: But in saying that, we do not apologise for any aspect of this religion, there is jihad in Islam. What’s most beloved and favourite thing to Allah? Jihad in the Way of Allah

He says the real jihad will come when the senior Islamic clerics declare it – and prays it will come soon

Abu Usamah: We ask Allah to bring about the means and the ways in which the Muslims will get the power and the honour of repelling the oppression of the kuffaar, where we can go out and perform the jihad. We ask Allah to bring that time, so we can be participants in that

Abu Usamah he told us: “Islam allows for any Muslim to peacefully coexist here in the UK with non-Muslims even though the UK is not an Islamic society

He said he had made it clear that it is a religious duty on all Muslims to obey UK law and the carrying out of Islamic law could only be done in an actual Islamic state

He said: “Homosexuality is an abomination against Allah and all mankind and I will never condone it. Even though this is the case, I do not believe in disobeying the law when it comes to the way people deal with homosexuals.”

A hardline message, influenced by Saudi Arabian clerics, is preached at Green Lane Mosque in Birmingham

An imam from the mosque has helped advise the government

Abdul Hadi sat on a government taskforce on extremism, set up after the 7th of July bombings

He was part of its working group on combating extremism in mosques and imams

DVD: Preparing to Stand Before Allah: Ahlus Sunnah Productions (2004)

Yet this DVD shows he took part in a Green Lane conference in which other speakers urged Muslims to discriminate against homosexuals and hit girls who don’t wear the hijab

He seemed to have no worries at the extremism of the message

Abdul Hadi: It is very hard to conclude such a beautiful programme, but we have to

The head of the working group on mosques and imams was Lord Nazir Ahmed, Britain’s first Muslim peer

He’s previously praised Green Lane Mosque

In an interview with BBC radio in 2003, he named it as his favourite spiritual place in the country

Cap: Favourite Spiritual Places July 2003

Lord Ahmed: Number 20, Green Lane, Birmingham, is my favourite spiritual place

He said he’d worshipped there

Lord Ahmed: This is the most amazing place. When I walk into the mosque, I feel I am entering the biggest palace on earth

Lord Ahmed recently said he would ask the Lord Chancellor to meet an organisation called the Islamic Shari’ah Council, including its Secretary General, a preacher called Sheikh Suhaib Hasan

The meeting would be to discuss the introduction of Islamic divorce laws into the UK constitution

Undercover filming at Green Lane

Our reporter filmed Sheikh Hasan speaking at Green Lane

He’s a senior imam at a major mosque in East London, and a former President of the Markazi Jamiat Ahl-e-Hadith

In a speech downloaded from his mosque website, he proclaims the supremacy of Muslims in encounters with the non-believers

Masjid Al Tawhid internet broadcast

NO SUBTITLES

Sh Hasan: And Allah made the words of the kuffaar dung/down and the words of the believers supreme

(footnote for the press – HE SAYS IT IS DOWN, NOT DUNG)

In speeches on other Islamic websites, he predicts the coming of an Islamic state

Suhaib Hasan: True Understanding of the Khilaafah

Sh Hasan: Allah has decreed this thing, that I am going to be dominant, the dominance of course is a political dominance

The Islamic state he predicts will have a single, lifelong ruler with no opposition parties or elections and it will bring in a strict version of Islamic law

Sh Hasan: The chopping of the hands of the thieves, the flogging of the adulterers and flogging of the drunkards

Then this state will launch jihad

Sh Hasan: Then jihad against the non-Muslims, against those people who are the oppressors

Sheikh Hasan told us that the word “kuffaar” was “not a racist or discriminatory term when heard in its Quranic sense”

He said he’d stated many times that the re-establishment of a “single Islamic state”, would be peaceful

He said he had often praised the British welfare state, its judicial, health and education systems

He said: “I have never promoted any form of extremism, whether religious or otherwise”

Lord Ahmed told us that Green Lane Mosque was one of many mosques he visited

He said: “It would be ludicrous to suggest that by visiting an institution I become responsible for, or aware of, every word spoken at that establishment

He said he had asked for the meeting with the Lord Chancellor on behalf of all Muslims, and said he was not aware of all the views held by Sheikh Hasan

Next, we investigate claims that radicalism, linked to the Saudi religious establishment has spread across the country

…. even reaching into Britain’s biggest and most mainstream mosque

PART TWO

A Dispatches reporter investigated one of Britain’s biggest and most mainstream mosques

Green Lane Mosque in Birmingham

uncovering a fundamentalist ideology emanating from the Saudi religious establishment

He found it promoting male supremacy

Abu Usamah: Allah has created the woman deficient

Green Lane preacher: If she doesn’t wear hijab, we hit her

Condemning non-Muslims

Abu Usamah: We hate the kuffaar, we do not give obedience to the kuffaar

and predicting a future jihad

Abu Usamah: The tables are going to turn, and the Muslims are going to be in a position of being uppermost in strength

Now he was to discover how preachers trained in Saudi Arabia are spreading the same message around the country

Last summer, a two-week Islamic Studies course was arranged at the mosque, and our reporter was accepted onto it

It was to be taught by clerics, flown specially from the University of Medinah, in Saudi Arabia

But then it was cancelled at short notice

Our reporter went to their office to find out more

The preacher Abu Usamah tells him what the aim of the course was

Abu Usamah: From what I know is, people were going to come and teach the course from Saudi Arabia. Part of the programme was, the students who did good like the first three or top five students, would get a scholarship to go. That was part of the conditions they had agreed with the Professors who are coming, because the Professors are from the university

Reporter: Of Medinah?

Abu Usamah: Yes

The most devout worshippers at Green Lane are being offered scholarships to Saudi religious universities

Abu Usamah: It’s for people like you

The aim is to train new preachers, according to Dr Irfan Al Alawi, who keeps his face hidden in interviews

Dr Al Alawi: Medinah University is a very hardcore Wahhabi institution. Over the years they have been giving bursaries to students from United Kingdom and throughout the world to recruit students to be brainwashed, then they are trained to go abroad and teach their poison and inject it into others

Medinah graduates are now spreading the word in mosques up and down the UK

Like Dr Bilal Philips, who says marrying girls before they reach puberty is permissible

.…. Sheikh Suhaib Hasan, who preaches a future Muslim supremacy

……. and Abu Usamah himself

Hakim Murad: This is one of the most important items I think on the Saudi radical agenda, to push out the more hospitable types of religious leadership and replace them with firebrands, trained and programmed in the major Saudi universities

Our reporter finds that Saudi-trained preachers are being promoted in DVDs and CDs throughout the UK

He found typical examples being sold in the car park at Green Lane Mosque

Children are buying them

And the stalls are manned by local kids

Reporter: Salamu aleikum brother

Reporter: Thank you brother

He buys a DVD of Sheikh Feiz, another Medinah-trained preacher

Reporter: Thank-you brother

- in which he preaches jihad

Cap: Death Series: Islam Productions

Sheikh Feiz: The peak, the pinnacle, the crest, the highest point, the pivot, the summit, of Islam, is jihad

He criticises Muslim parents who don’t want their children to learn this

Sh Feiz: Today, many parents, they prevent their children from attending lessons, why? They fear they might create or place in their hearts, the love, just a bit of love, of sacrificing their lives for Allah.

We want to have children and offer them as soldiers defending Islam. Teach them this, there is nothing more beloved to me than wanting to die as a mujahid, put in their soft tender hearts the zeal of jihad and the love of martyrdom

The Markazi Jamiat Ahl-e-Hadith, who run Green Lane Mosque in Birmingham told us it was “committed to promoting interfaith dialogue and political harmony in our society”

Scholars from many different backgrounds spoke at its mosque, and we had quoted many out of context

It had not known what each speaker would say beforehand and did not necessarily agree with everything that may have been said

It said the word kuffaar was a neutral term, and said:

“We reject the assertion …. that we are influenced by and teach an extreme version of Islam…We accept the rule of law and we treat our non-Muslim neighbours with respect.”

It said Islamic punishments are an effective deterrent in Islamic societies

The most notorious convert to preach in Britain was Sheikh Al Faisal, who studied Islam at Riyadh University

He circulated his own tapes, urging followers to kill and to plant bombs, and was jailed for inciting racial hatred

Al Faisal cassette: You have to bomb the Indian businesses, and as for the Jews you kill them physically

In an interview with the BBC, Al Faisal claimed that he learned his anti-Semitic views from his university training in Saudi Arabia

El Faisal: I learned at University that the Holocaust was orchestrated in order that the Jews will establish a homeland in Arab territories

The war to convert is waged on the internet

This website says it’s run by an Islamic charity, which is based in Saudi Arabia

It directs readers to a fatwa website, which says it’s supervised by a Saudi scholar

Readers can email in questions and get religious rulings

The rulings say Muslims in the West must have “an attitude of enmity and hatred of the kaffirs …. all of the kuffaar are the enemies of the Muslims”…

Jihad –“ pursuing the kaafirs in their lands…. and fighting them if they do not … submit to the rule of Islam” – is a “communal obligation” on Muslims

…. “men are superior to women and are better than women” and husbands can hit their wives – though only lightly

……. it recommends “prodding with the fist”

DVDs, books and the internet are all ways that the message is spread, according to Saudi expert Mai Yamani

Caption: Mai Yamani

Saudi analyst

Mai Yamani: Since the 1980s, there has been an increase in the export of Wahhabi teachings to the Muslim world, from Kosovo to Jakarta, and to the United States and Great Britain, supercharged with oil money

They sent in money for teachers, for schools, they printed books, they educated imams, so it is like a wave of teachings hitting at the shores of Western countries

Islamic bookshops in Britain are offered free literature

Hakim Murad: A number of bookshops known to me have actually gone out of business because they have been undercut by the more fundamentalist literature being supplied for free by Saudi Arabia

Dr Taj Hargey set up the Muslim Educational Centre of Oxford to promote an Islam of tolerance and peaceful co-existence

He’s opposed to Saudi influence over British Muslim life

Dr Hargey: The Saudi funding of British Muslim institutions come from a variety of official, semi-official and private sources, in addition to government funding through the Ministry of Religious Affairs and other government agencies.

Money from Saudi has even reached the most famous mosque in Europe

London Central Mosque, better known as Regent’s Park Mosque, is the most recognisable symbol of moderate, mainstream Muslim life in Britain

It says it acts on behalf of the whole Muslim community in dealing with the government

The Saudi monarchy gave two million pounds to help build it, and in the 1990s, they built its educational and administrative wing

Wajid Shamsul Hasan was a trustee of the mosque in the 1990s, in his capacity as the Pakistan High Commissioner to Britain

He had concerns about the direction the mosque was taking

Aston: Wajid Shamsul Hasan

Trustee 1994-1996

Wajid: The Islam that I personally would like to follow is liberal Islam. This is a centre where 5,000 people once in a week gather, it should be a cradle for the promotion of liberal Islam, but unfortunately, because of the predominant Saudi influence and Saudi money that comes in, it is supportive of Wahhabism

Caption: Undercover filming

The mosque’s official bookshop is run by a company called Darussalam

It’s a British company, but it’s linked to Darussalam Publications - a global publishing house, whose head office is in Saudi Arabia

Our reporter visited – and bought another video of Sheikh Feiz, the Saudi-trained preacher – condemning the non-believer

Caption: Signs of the Hour: Islam Productions

Feiz: Kaffir, the worst word that can ever be written, a sign of infidelity, disbelief, filth, a sign of dirt

He calls Jews “pigs” who will be killed when the end of the world comes

Feiz: This creature will say Oh Muslim behind me is the Jew come and kill him. They will be (snorting), all of them, every single one of them

Regular interfaith meetings with other religions take place at this mosque

Yet in a DVD bought from its bookshop, a British-based convert called Sheikh Khalid Yasin, who studied Arabic in Saudi Arabia, condemns the teachings of other religions

Cap: Changing the World Through Da’wah: IBC Ltd/1Islam Productions

Yasin: We don't need to go to the Christians or the Jews debating with them about the filth which they believe. We Muslims have been ordered to do brainwashing because the kuffaar they are doing brain defiling. You are watching the kaffir TV and your wife is watching it right now and your children are watching it and they are being polluted and they are being penetrated and they are being infected, so that you come out of the house and your children come out of the house as Muslims and come back as kaffirs

Cap: London Central Mosque website

In this DVD from the mosque bookshop, he preaches against the equality of women

Cap: Some Advice to the Muslim Women: 1 Islam Productions

Sh Yasin: This whole delusion of the equality of women is a bunch of foolishness…. There’s no such thing

In this DVD, he claims AIDS is a Western and Christian plot

Cap: Jihad or Terrorism?: Ahlussunnah wal Jama’ah

Yasin: Missionaries from the World Health Organisation and Christian groups went into Africa and inoculated people for diphtheria, malaria, yellow fever and they put in the medicine the AIDS virus, which is a conspiracy

The mosque bookshop sells speeches by the Green Lane Mosque preacher, Abu Usamah

In this one, he says Muslims and non-Muslims cannot coexist

Cap: Natural Disasters: WISE Islamic Centre

Abu Usamah: The fire of the Muslim and the non-Muslim, they cannot co-exist, one of them is going to impact the other. The non-Muslims have the authority, and they have the power, their lifestyle is going to impact upon the Muslims. Because the good and the bad, they do not co-exist

And they sell audio CDs of Murtaza Khan, a preacher who speaks in many UK mosques

He’s also an Islamic Studies teacher at Al Noor Muslim Primary School in Essex

In this CD from the mosque, he claims the Koran condemns Jews and Christians

CD: Time to Return to the Quran: Knowledge Books and Audio

Murtaza Khan: Those whom the wrath of Allah is upon, is the Jews, is the Christians

And he criticises Muslims who follow their ways

Murtaza Khan: We have become Jews in our clothing, Jews in our eating, Jews in everything that we do, and the other half is Christian in everything we do. Muslims are following one of these accursed nations. And people are still not waking up to understand the fact that these people are enemies towards us

He says Muslims should become doctors, so women don’t have to go to non-Muslim doctors

Murtaza Khan: We should have a sense of shame. For how long have we seen our mothers, our sisters, and our daughters have to go and uncover themselves before these filthy non-Muslim doctors?

Murtaza Khan told us: “My discourses have never been delivered with the intent to malign any individual/group or race. They are delivered to inspire Muslims to better themselves and then to play a positive role for their own and wider community in Britain.”

Al Noor Muslim Primary School told us: “We can confirm that Mr M. Khan is employed as a teacher at Al-Noor Primary School and can also categorically state that the alleged remarks .. do not reflect the views of this educational establishment. No extreme or discriminatory views are expressed or taught at our school by any of our teachers”

Darussalam International Publications Ltd, which runs the mosque bookshop, told us it sells a wide range of material and did not necessarily agree with it

It said it was “totally unfair” to blame them for the views expressed in the lectures

The current director general of Regents Park Mosque, Dr Al Dubayan, is from Saudi Arabia

A recent employment tribunal concerning a sex discrimination complaint at the mosque revealed that they had no jurisdiction over Dr Al Dubayan, because he’s actually a serving Saudi diplomat

Dr Hargey: It’s scandalous. The director general of this mosque is a Saudi diplomat, he leads the largest and most prestigious mosque in this country.

Dr Al Dubayan told us his diplomatic status had been extended to him as a courtesy by the Saudi Arabian government following his appointment

He said the mosque bookshop was run independently and he was seriously concerned to hear that inappropriate materials may be on offer

The materials had been removed immediately until it was ascertained whether they were “damaging to the principles of tolerance, multiculturalism and equal rights.”

He said: “It is simply not true that the London Central Mosque has become dominated by the influence of Saudi Arabia and its religious teachings”

The Saudi government says it’s cracked down on clerics who preach extremism

It says it does everything it can to “confront and combat extremism”

It’s a major ally of Britain

Caption: May 2006

Jack Straw: We proclaim our shared attachment to civilisation and to the basic human values, of respect, of dialogue and freedom

Haras Rafiq heads the Sufi Muslim Council, which promotes a tolerant Islam and is opposed to the spread of radical teachings

Haras Rafiq: A lot of these institutions that are set up by and funded by Wahhabis and their offshoots, are teaching Muslims youngsters to be isolationist, are teaching Muslim youngsters to be segregationalist, are teaching Muslim youngsters that America and Britain are against them and therefore they need to get up against them and fight against them or struggle against them

Hakim Murad: Some Wahhabis believe that this is how the West is to be brought down, by spreading Wahhabism in the heart of the West’s cities.

Next, we find radicalism, openly preached at a major mosque

run by an organisation praised by Tony Blair for its support for multiculturalism and interfaith

PART THREE

A Dispatches reporter has uncovered a message of bigotry and intolerance

spreading through Britain from the Saudi religious establishment

Sheikh Feiz: We want to have children and offer them as soldiers, put in their soft, tender hearts, the zeal of jihad

Now he was to find more radical speakers, preaching in a mosque run by a major organisation

praised by Tony Blair for its interfaith work

While filming undercover, our reporter met this preacher - Dr Ijaz Mian

He’s a travelling speaker, who talks at different organisations in Britain

Our reporter filmed his talk at a mosque run by the Ahl-e-Hadith organisation in Derby

It’s the same organisation that runs Green Lane Mosque in Birmingham, which our reporter found promoting extreme teachings

Dr Mian praises the Saudi religious police, saying they can imprison people for not praying

Dr Mian: They send the police, and they say, well, if you don’t come for prayer, close your shop, we will arrest you But if you don’t, then we have to bring the punishment on you, you will be killed, and nobody will pray on you

Dr Mian is yet another UK preacher who was taught in Saudi Arabia

He spent six years studying Islam at Ibn Saud University in Riyadh

He wants to see religious police operating on the street

Dr Mian: They would make sure that every person prays to Allah, five times. Every woman will be covered properly, hijab, otherwise the police will just collect them

He has a radical plan for this country

Muslims shouldn’t accept British democracy

Dr Mian: King, Queen, House of Commons. If you accept it, you are a part of it. You don’t accept it, you have to dismantle it. So you being a Muslim you have to fix a target, there will be no House of Commons. From that White House to this Black House, we know that we have to dismantle it

Muslims must grow in strength then take over

Dr Mian: You are in a situation in which you have to live like a state within a state, until you take over. But until this happens, you have to preach, until you become such a force that the people they just submit to you, hands up, until you become strong enough to take over

It’s an extreme vision – that Muslims will one day take over Britain and bring about an Islamic state with sharia law

Dr Mian invites our reporter to visit Birmingham, where he’s based

Dr Mian: We can come to you, you can come to us

He takes him up on the offer and a few weeks later they meet in Birmingham

Dr Mian takes him to Sparkbrook Islamic Centre, where he wants to arrange a talk

The centre is run by the UK Islamic Mission a major organisation dedicated to interfaith work

This is their annual conference last year in Birmingham

It runs over 45 mosques and branches in Britain and has 6,000 children in its part-time Islamic schools

The Prime Minister has said the UKIM “is extremely valued by the government”, particularly for its “multi-faith and multicultural activities

Caption: UKIM website

Yet despite his radical views, Dr Mian has worked with the UKIM and given talks at its events

At their annual conference, he was a guest on stage

Today, he’s making a presentation to the UKIM committee at the Sparkbrook Islamic Centre

He suggests that the committee invites a small group of non-Muslims to the mosque and tries to convert them

Dr Mian: Every kaffir has a right to Islam

He says Muslims cannot accept non-Muslim rule

Dr Mian: You cannot accept the rule of the kaffir. We have to rule ourselves and we have to rule the others

Although his radical beliefs are obvious, the UKIM committee is happy to go ahead with his talk

UKIM man: If we invite people, would you be available to speak to them?

Dr Mian: Of course, this is my full time duty

UKIM Man: We will organise it

The UKIM hosts regular interfaith events at this mosque

Yet when our reporter joined the worshippers at Sparkbrook for a Friday sermon – he heard the UKIM imam preaching against non-Muslims

Preacher: God, help us win the fight against the kuffaar, in every field, in every department of life. We beg you to help us fight against the enemies of our religion. Help us fight the kuffaar

The UKIM runs dawah, or missionary centres, which spread the word

Our reporter visits one of them, at Alum Rock Islamic Centre, in Birmingham, to see what kind of materials they circulate

Reporter: Is the dawah centre open upstairs?

Dawah man: Yes, what do you want?

Reporter: I’m looking for some books

Man: yes, yes

He’s given some free leaflets

Man: Yes this one. If you start with these, these are easy to understand, for everybody who doesn’t know anything about Islam

They’re by a Pakistani religious leader called Sayyid Mawdudi

He He wwas the founder of a fundamentalist political party in Pakistan called Jamaat-Islami

The UKIM literature outlines his radical message

Pamphlet: “Islam is a revolutionary ideology which seeks to alter the social order of the entire world”

Muslims form an “International Revolutionary Party”

The pamphlets contain some of the ideas that Dr Mian preaches …..

that Muslims must work towards doing away with all non-Islamic governments, and set up an Islamic state

The party Mawdudi founded, the Jamaat Islami, has links to the Saudi religious establishment

Although it stands in Pakistani elections, its aim is to set up an Islamic state run by sharia law

Protesters: Long Live sharia constitution!

The man who runs the missionary centre in Birmingham says the UKIM is an independent organisation, with its own objectives

… but he says they follow the same ideology as the Jamaat Islami

Man: ideologically we are affiliated to Jamaat Islami

Reporter: It’s the same ideology?

Man: Yeah you can say that, it’s the same ideology

He claims the UKIM shares the same ideology with other fundamentalist organisations, like Hamas in Palestine, and the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt

Bookshop man: Some are in Pakistan, some are in Egypt, wherever they are their ideology is the same, so you can say our ideology is the same with them

Our reporter finds the UKIM accepts money from Saudi sheikhs

Every week at its Sparkbrook mosque, a list of donors is read out

Speaker: Saudi Arabian Professor Sheikh

Caption: August 2006

Our reporter attended a day of talks, arranged at the UKIM’s Sparkbrook mosque

When we contacted the UKIM, they said they had hired their centre out to another organisation, who arranged this event

In public, the UKIM has told Muslims they can participate in British democracy, and it invited politicians to its annual conference last summer in Birmingham

Rob Marris, Labour MP: I’m here as a friend of Islam and as a Labour politician

But in the day of talks in their mosque, invited preachers condemned democracy

Speaker: Today we find ourselves bearing the brunt of a pervasive attack against Islam, trying to win the hearts and minds of Muslims over to become advocates and supporters of a democratic system

Never will the Jews and Christians be happy with you until you follow their way, and their system and their way of life. Call the people to avoid and renounce the way of the Jews and the Christians, which is the way of freedom, which is the way of equality, which is the way of democracy

The next speaker is introduced as the deputy headmaster of Darul Uloom Islamic High School, a single faith secondary school in Birmingham

The government has urged single faith schools to promote “tolerance … inclusion … and understanding between different sections of society”

Deputy head: They talk about integration, there is an overt as well as a covert plan, a programme, they talk about you need to integrate, if you don’t you are a freak, you’re strange, there’s something wrong with you, like if you have something against homosexuality, they’ve got a name to call you now, you’re a homophobic man there is something wrong with you, not with this gay – sorry homosexual. Which part of this society are we supposed to take and adopt as our life, which one?

His criticism of Western society even extended to democracy itself

Deputy head: And they’ve got all these people, all these organisations talking about it, let’s be “democratic”. And I disagree with using the word democracy. They should call it according to the Islamic understanding of the word, which is kuffrocracy, kuffrocracy that’s their plan. It’s the hidden, cancerous aim of these people

Darul Uloom School told us that the deputy headmaster had left the school after this speech was made and said his views and opinions did not represent those of the school

It said: “We` promote the view that students should integrate and become good and upright citizens of this country”

The UKIM works with the police and invited officers to its annual conference

Police officer: I take huge comfort from the really positive messages from the Muslim community

But in the event which they allowed at their Sparkbrook mosque, another invited speaker said Muslims can’t join the police

Speaker: Is it correct, is it viable, to join the police? How can you be implementing the laws of kufr? It means a rejection of the concept of democracy, rejecting the entirety of the system

He mentions a Muslim who joined the British Army and was killed fighting the Taliban last summer

Speaker: There was an individual who was killed in Afghanistan recently - what was his name? His name was a Muslim name you know what they’d written in a tabloid newspaper? Hero of Islam!

A hero of Islam who went into the Muslim Afghanistan to kill Muslims. Why? Because they are implementing Islam

Then, he praises the Taliban fighters who killed him

The hero of Islam is the one who separated his head from his shoulders.

((((((IN LIEU OF THEIR STATEMENT TO COME, taken from the Oberver RTR and our letter)))))

The UKIM told us its Sparkbrook hall had been available for hire and said: “Some of the organisations that hired it allowed some speakers with views that are not our own. No more external groups will be allowed to hire our community hall at Sparkbrook”

It said the UK Islamic Mission has no organic links with Jamaa’t-e-Islami in Pakistan or any other Islamic party or society overseas

It said the UKIM believed in “genuine plurality, multiculturalism, universal human rights, cultural diversity

Dr Mian told us that he did not advocate that Islam would be forced upon anyone, and said we had not quoted his many speeches condemning terrorism and the killing of innocent people

Our investigation has uncovered religious bigotry and intolerance spreading from the Saudi religious establishment through major, mainstream British organisations

Haras Rafiq: The radicalising power of this ideology is extremely dangerous. We are losing our children to extremists

Hakim Murad: I regard what the Saudis are doing in the ghettoes of British Islam as potentially lethal for the future of the community

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Humanity needs peace not Islam.

Undercover Mosque

2007-01-17T10:46:00.000Z

This programme was broadcast on Channel 4 on 15th January 2007

The description here is copied from the Channel 4 website.

A Dispatches reporter attends mosques run by organisations whose public faces are presented as moderate and finds preachers condemning integration into British society, condemning democracy and praising the Taliban for killing British soldiers.

Prime Minister Tony Blair recently described tolerance as 'what makes Britain Britain' but in this extensive investigation Dispatches reveals how a message of hatred and segregation is being spread throughout the UK and examines how it is influenced by the religious establishment of Saudi Arabia.

Dispatches has investigated a number of mosques run by high profile national organisations that claim to be dedicated to moderation and dialogue with other faiths. But an undercover reporter joined worshippers to find a message of religious bigotry and extremism being preached.

He captures chilling sermons in which Saudi-trained preachers proclaim the supremacy of Islam, preach hatred for non-Muslims and for Muslims who do not follow their extreme beliefs - and predict a coming jihad. "An army of Muslims will arise," announces one preacher. Another preacher said British Muslims must "dismantle" British democracy - they must "live like a state within a state" until they are "strong enough to take over."

The investigation reveals Saudi Arabian universities are recruiting young Western Muslims to train them in their extreme theology, then sending them back to the West to spread the word. And the Dispatches reporter discovers that British Muslims can ask for fatwas, religious rulings, direct from the top religious leader in Saudi Arabia, the Grand Mufti.

Saudi-trained preachers are also promoted in DVDs and books on sale at religious centres and sermons broadcast on websites. These publications and webcasts disseminate beliefs about women such as: "Allah has created the woman deficient, her intellect is incomplete", and girls: "By the age of 10 if she doesn't wear hijab, we hit her," and there's an extreme hostility towards homosexuals.

The investigation reveals that the influence of Saudi Arabian Islam, Wahabism, extends beyond the walls of some mosques to influential organisations that advise the British government on inter-community relations and prevention of terrorism.

The Dispatches reporter attends talks at mosques run by key organisations whose public faces are presented as moderate and mainstream - and finds preachers condemning the idea of integration into British society, condemning British democracy as un-Islamic and praising the Taliban for killing British soldiers.

Undercover Mosque features interviews with moderate British Muslim figures who are speaking out against the influence of Saudi Arabia's extreme brand of Islam, which is seeking to overturn Islamic traditions of diversity and peaceful co-existence: "We are losing our children to extremists," says Haras Rafiq of the Sufi Muslim Council. Dr Al Alawi of the Islamic Heritage Foundation also warns: "If this continues, you will have extremist mosques in every corner of the UK. You will not have moderate Muslims walking on our streets anymore."

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None of these revelations should come as any surprise. What is surprising is that anybody should be surprised by these findings.

The statement about the deficiency of women's intelligence is simply in line with the Hadiths, which are sacred texts, and are effectively Mohammed's biography:

'Then he passed by the women and said, "O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women)." They asked, "Why is it so, O Allah's Apostle ?" He replied, "You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you.' Hadith 1 6 301

Women are treated badly, but this is also entirely in line with the teachings of the Quran and the Hadiths.

Under Sharia law, a woman's testimony is valued at only half of a man's testimony.

In the case of a rape, where there are no witnesses, a woman will usually find that her life becomes unbearable if she reports it.

If she brings her complaint to a Sharia court, it is highly likely that she will be convicted of adultery, and the man, her rapist, will receive only a very light penalty, if at all.

The penalty for adultery is extreme: Either a severe beating, or even stoning to death. One way that a woman can avoid this, is to marry the man. He then has complete authority to rape her whenever he feels like it. Here is a quote from the Quran:

"Your wives are a tilth for you, so go into your tilth when you like" Quran 2.223

In addition, a woman prisoner or slave ("those whom your right hand possesses") can be raped repeatedly without any penalty at all:

"O Prophet! surely We have made lawful to you your wives whom you have given their dowries, and those whom your right hand possesses out of those whom Allah has given to you as prisoners of war" Quran 33.50

The persecution of homosexuals is also entirely within the teachings of the Quran and the Hadiths.

What various politicians still delude themselves with is the idea that Islam is inherently peaceful, but that "radical" elements are in some way not true Muslims. Unfortunately, the truth is uncomfortable: It is the "radical" Muslims who are following the Quran and the Hadiths more accurately than their "moderate" brothers.

Nevertheless, whether "radical" or "moderate", Muslims wish to see Britain become an Islamic state.

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Well done Channel 4 for making this programme.
However, we should not be surprised by the findings, since the preaching is very much in line with the Quran and Hadiths.
Channel 4 may like to consider producing a programme that seeks to answer the following questions:
What exactly is a "moderate" Muslim? How do they choose which verses in the Quran to ignore? On what authority do they ignore any verses? How can the moderate Muslims have any moral authority over those who follow the Quran more accurately? How can we have any hope therefore that the moderate voices will prevail?

Humanity needs peace not Islam.

Church of England Dhimmitude

2007-01-17T10:44:00.000Z

Unfortunately the Church of England is well on the way to Dhimmitude, without even realising it.

The problem lies, in part, with the inter-faith services. If a Muslim prays or preaches in a Church or Cathedral, that effectively means that it then belongs to Allah. It is a bit like a dog peeing on a lamp post to mark its territory. Stretching the analogy a little: The urine causes the lamp post to corrode and eventually collapse. One more source of illumination is thereby deleted, and the world becomes a darker, more dangerous place.

I am not at all convinced that Allah and Yahweh are the same entity. The Quran makes it clear that the Trinity of Christianity is rejected as a false teaching:

"Certainly they disbelieve who say: Surely Allah is the third (person) of the three; and there is no god but the one God, and if they desist not from what they say, a painful chastisement shall befall those among them who disbelieve." Quran 5.73

Within the Quran, there are numerous bloodthirsty verses, which form an inseparable part of Islam. These verses cannot be deleted, and remain as relevant today as when they were written. Neither can they be excused, or explained away. Today, every day, bloodshed follows the Quran wherever it is propagated around the world. This has been true for many centuries historically, and there is nothing to prevent it remaining true for many centuries to come.

I like to think of religions as buildings. First, a very substantial structure has been built by Judaism. This has been extended by Christianity, without in any way demolishing the existing building. Instead, the extension has created a much more useful structure, able to accommodate many more people.

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." Matthew 5:17-18

Along comes Islam, and demolishes the Judaeo-Christian building, and places its own edifice on the site. A monstrous carbuncle on the face of a dear friend. Bloodshed, confusion, and despair follow in its wake. Mohammed surely has a lot to answer for. Here is a quote from the New Testament:

"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them." Matthew 7:15-20

The concept of abrogation means that many of the earlier "revelations" given to Mohammed are cancelled out by the later verses in the Quran. However, it also means that much of the Bible is also cancelled out. How then can the Church permit verses from the Quran to be spoken within its buildings, knowing that it thereby places the Bible into a secondary position below the Quran?

"Whatever communications We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring one better than it or like it. Do you not know that Allah has power over all things?" Quran 2.106

Inter-faith worship has necessitated too much compromise, and has been going on for too long now. The document "Guidelines on Worship Involving Christians and People of Other Faith Traditions - Prepared by a Task Force of the Faith, Worship, and Ministry Comittee of the Anglican Church of Canada approved by the Council of General Synod" is dated November 1996. It references another document dated 1988, so this madness has a long history.

The extent of the Dhimmitude is recognised in these quotes from the document:

"When people of faith gather to worship together we do so understanding ourselves to be in relationship to the ultimate mystery of the source and end of being, which Christians name as the Triune God, although others name that reality in other terms."

and

"Christians who participate in worship with members of other traditions do so in acknowledgement of the possibility that the presence of God may be mediated through traditions other than their own."

and

"The primary purpose of inter-faith worship is not to educate one another in our various forms of worship (important as that may be) but to stand together in relationship to the ultimate mystery and to one another in a given context. This combination of dimensions means that we are bound together not only before the ultimate mystery but also in a community of ethical responsibility."

and

"We are at a cross-roads in history and we cannot predetermine the effects of dialogue. We cannot establish a fixed theological tradition in which we make judgements about other traditions."

It would appear from these quotes that the Anglican church has rejected the uniqueness of the teachings of the Bible. If the Anglicans have no strength of conviction in their own tenets, then of course they are unable to make judgements about other traditions.

This state of affairs deserves its warnings::

"But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven." Matthew 10:33

"This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men." Matthew 15:8-9

"But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken; The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." Matthew 24:48-51

Towards the end of the document, we find this statement:

"Participation in the worship of another tradition does not indicate consent or agreement but respect."

Given the extent of the accommodations that have been made, indicated by the earlier quotes, this latter statement lacks credibility. Furthermore, just because the nominal Christians who attend such an inter-faith service may believe this statement, does not imply that the participants from other faiths agree with this sentiment. Indeed, far from it. For a Muslim, the Quran abrogates the Bible. Permitting the Quran to be quoted within a Church or Cathedral has serious implications, which are not obvious to everyone.

By allowing Muslims into their buildings, it implies that the C of E does believe that Allah and Yahweh are the same. The Quran itself demonstrates that they are not the same. The historical circumstances of the arrival of Islam also indicates that they are not the same, and that Muslims are probably worshipping a moon god inadvertently.

The C of E would not allow Pagans in to worship Odin etc, would they? Unfortunately, it would appear that the name Allah is derived from the moon god Al-Llah, who was already worshipped at Mecca prior to the arrival of Mohammed on the scene. Whilst we may derive some morbid fascination with this religious pile-up scene, how can we actually help to rescue the victims? It would appear that a large section of Christianity cannot form the rescue team, since they are very much involved in the accident itself. The road to peace will remain blocked for the whole of humanity, until the results of Mohammed's dangerous driving have been cleared away. At the present time it is not at all obvious who will have the courage to form the rescue team, to clear away the carnage.

The Church of England is well on the way towards Dhimmitude. This is confirmed by the statements of Archbishop Dr Rowan Williams recently. He seems to think that the plight of the Palestinian Christians is primarily due to Israel. Of course, the reality is that Palestinian Christians are persecuted and disadvantaged primarily by Palestinian Muslims. Likewise, Christians and people of other faiths are persecuted and disadvantaged by Muslims in many countries around the world.

It is not just the Church of England that has strayed into error, but so has the Roman Catholic Church.

As proclaimed by His Holiness Pope Paul VI – October 28, 1965:

"The [Roman Catholic] Church regards with esteem also the Moslems. They adore the one God, living and subsisting in Himself; merciful and all- powerful, the Creator of heaven and earth, who has spoken to men; they take pains to submit wholeheartedly to even His inscrutable decrees, just as Abraham, with whom the faith of Islam takes pleasure in linking itself, submitted to God. Though they do not acknowledge Jesus as God, they revere Him as a prophet. "

There is one simple word for this proclamation: Blasphemy.

It would seem that the current Pope is more robust in his defence of Christianity from the depradations of Islam. Let us hope that he does not lose his nerve.

The leadership of the Church of England must speak the truth about Islam, even if that leads to difficulties. The Pope has challenged Islam to make use of rationality, in his Regensburg lecture. However, that central message was drowned out by controversy regarding whether Islam has been spread by the sword. That this historical fact should have resulted in churches being burned, and Christians being attacked simply demonstrates the inherent violence of Islam.

The present leadership of the C of E appears to be not up to the challenge. It would help if they understood better the nature of the conflict with Islam. It will not simply go away. No amount of appeasement and wishful thinking will achieve very much, and indeed it is counter-productive. The excellent book "Celsius 7/7" by Michael Gove MP clearly demonstrates the folly of appeasement.

Furthermore, if the Church truly believes that Christianity is the only path, then it is a great disservice to Muslims themselves to allow them to preach within Church buildings. They are thereby encouraged to continue in their error unchallenged. Their belief that Islam is superior to Christianity is reinforced. This is not in the best interest of Muslims, and it is not in the best interests of the Church either.

The Church of England cannot afford to go on making such blunders. It is not just the future of the Church that is at stake, but the future of Britain, and indeed the whole world also. Islam will utterly destroy Christianity if it possibly can.

There is a plentiful supply of bats in the belfry! Of course, anybody can make a mistake. What is needed is to recognise that a serious mistake has been made, and then to take corrective actions.

There are also many obvious differences between Christianity and Islam, particularly in relation to the person of Jesus Christ, the way of salvation, and each faith’s scripture or scriptures. These differences encompass the very foundational tenets of each religion, and therefore, while Islam and Christianity can both be false, they cannot both be true.

Humanity needs peace not Islam.

Are Allah and Yahweh the same entity?

2007-01-10T15:48:00.000Z

The commonly held assumption is that yes they are one and the same. However, such an assumption may not be accurate.

Just because two entities share certain characteristics, does not mean that they are therefore the same thing. For example, the Bible and the Quran both describe the same persons, Abraham, Moses etc. The analogy is that a car is not the same as an aeroplane, just because they both have wheels as a shared characteristic.

Firstly, consider the family relationships. Allah has no sons, but at least in the early development of Islam, he appears to have been credited with three daughters. Reference to the daughters has not been completely erased from the Quran. Yahweh is credited with one son (at least according to Christian teaching), but no daughters. It does not seem possible to resolve these differences.

We are told that there is no god but Allah. However, the existence of three goddesses is rarely mentioned. They are: al-Lat and al-Uzza and Manat. One goddess, al-Lat, is associated with the moon, another, al-Uzza, with the evening star (Venus). Hence the crescent moon and star symbols found on the flags of many Islamic states, and on top of mosques etc. The third goddess, Manat, is associted with a pair of shears, with which she cuts the thread of life. Prior to the rise of Islam, all three goddesses were worshipped at Mecca, together with their father, the moon god al-Llah (Allah). Go to the following website for more details: http://www.bible.ca/islam/

Secondly, what is the nature of revealed knowledge? It does appear that Prophets within the Bible will prophecy about those Prophets that are to follow them. These links span from the Old Testament to the New testament. It is not so clear that such a link can be made with Mohammed, in other words, from the Bible to the Quran. You would expect such prophetic links to be made if Allah and Yahweh are one and the same. If they are not the same, then you would expect to find references to false prophets. There are such references:

"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit." Matthew 7:15-17

Unfortunately, such references are not very specific, so it is hard to ascribe one particular prophecy as a description of one particular historical character. Is it possible to have any definitive answers, or is the honest response to simply feel out of our depth?

Thirdly, we should surely look for some consistency in the revealed knowledge. It would be reasonable to expect that the initial revelations would only show part of the picture, or be a bit hazy. However, subsequent revelations should, one presupposes, expand the breadth of the picture, or fill in some of the finer details. If there is some apparent inconsistency, it bears further analysis. For the Quran, the chronologically earlier verses are generally tolerant, but the later verses are generally bloodthirsty. Abrogation means that the bloodthirsty verses take precedence. How can it be, however, that Allah would be initially kind, but change to being cruel later? I don't know, but it does seem rather suspect.

Fourthly, why is it that certain Islamic countries ban the Bible? If it is true that the Holy Book that is in Heaven was partly given to the Jews, partly given to the Christians, and partly given to Mohammed, then surely it is wrong for a state to withold a large proportion of the Holy Book? Where is the logic? By preventing Muslims from owning a Bible, does that imply that Allah and Yahweh are indeed separate entities?

It just seems so terribly sad that religious beliefs are used to justify murder. Today, we see such large numbers killed in the name of Islam. However, Christianity has much blood on its hands also. Anti-Semitism became mainstream, as Christianity became the official religion of Rome. The Crusades have left deep scars.

How can we tolerate the intolerant? The preachers of hatred in our midst, who send out young men with bombs, to murder and maim indiscriminately. There is no prospect of any end in sight.

Who can deny with conviction that a contrite Muslim, who behaves well and generously during their life, and who puts their trust in Allah, will not attain Paradise? Conversely, someone with the outward trappings of Christianity, but who has not love, can they realistically expect to attain Heaven? What reformations would be necessary, for Christianity as well as for Islam, for such a sentiment to be accepted? Is this purely naive wishful thinking?

However, if Christians truly believe that theirs is the one and only way to Heaven, why don't they say it a bit louder? Why is there a constant deference to Islam? Such deference simply re-inforces the Muslim's belief that Islam is superior. The effect of which is to maintain non-Muslims in a state of being second class citizens within Muslim countries.

Whether Paradise of the Quran, and Heaven of the Bible are the same entity, is another question.

Perhaps we need a much simpler philosophy: To tread gently upon the earth, and to cause harm to no-one. Surely religious-inspired violence has gone on for far too long already.

I appear to have more questions than answers, and feel ill-equipped to progress further. If you have any well-considered points to make, then feel free to add a comment.

Humanity needs peace not Islam.

Blair is confused

2007-01-08T09:21:00.000Z

Following the London bombings of 7/7/2005, Blair stated the following, regarding the motivation of the Islamic terrorists:

"We will start to beat this when we stand up and confront the ideology of this evil. Not just the methods but the ideas. When we actually have people going into the [Muslim] communities here in this country and elsewhere and saying I am sorry, we are not having any of this nonsense about it is to do whith what the British are doing in Iraq, or Afghanistan, or support for Israel, or support for America, or any of the rest of it. It is nonsense, and we have to confront it as that. And when we confront it, then we will start to beat it. And we are not going to deal with this problem, with the roots as deep as they are, until we confront these people at every single level. And not just their methods, but their ideas."

More recently, Blair has praised the Quran:

(From the Muslim Weekly. March 24th 2006)

"The most remarkable thing about reading the Koran – in so far as it can be truly translated from the original Arabic - is to understand how progressive it is.

"I speak with great diffidence and humility as a member of another faith. I am not qualified to make any judgements. But as an outsider, the Koran strikes me as a reforming book, trying to return Judaism and Christianity to their origins, rather as reformers attempted with the Christian Church centuries later. It is inclusive. It extols science and knowledge and abhors superstition. It is practical and way ahead of its time in attitudes to marriage, women and governance," he said.

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So, Mr Blair, where do the Islamic terrorists get their ideas? Clearly Islamic terrorism (and opression) has existed for many centuries, so there is some truth in the assertion that it is not simply due to our involvement in Iraq or Afghanistan, or our support for Israel.

Maybe Blair believes that they get their ideas from little green men, who take the peace-loving Muslims on board their flying saucers, and brain wash them into becoming Islamic terrorists?

A rather more credible explanation, of course, is that it is the Quran that is the primary inspiration for Islamic terror. Therefore, how is praising the Quran achieving what Blair himself vowed to do: "And we are not going to deal with this problem, with the roots as deep as they are, until we confront these people at every single level. And not just their methods, but their ideas."

Blair is being excessively optimistic:

"We will start to beat this when we stand up and confront the ideology of this evil." Unfortunately, the ideology of the evil is deeply engrained in the Quran itself. There have been many centuries of greater leaders than Blair standing up and confronting Islam. The possibility that Blair will achieve very much in the few months remaining of his premiership is rather improbable.

Blair is a grinning fool. His probable sucessor Gordon Brown does not do grinning, but appears not to understand Islam either.

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"And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers." Quran 2.191

"They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper." Quran 4.89

"You will find others who desire that they should be safe from you and secure from their own people; as often as they are sent back to the mischief they get thrown into it headlong; therefore if they do not withdraw from you, and (do not) offer you peace and restrain their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them; and against these We have given you a clear authority." Quran 4.91

"Wherefore for the iniquity of those who are Jews did We disallow to them the good things which had been made lawful for them and for their hindering many (people) from Allah's way. And their taking usury though indeed they were forbidden it and their devouring the property of people falsely, and We have prepared for the unbelievers from among them a painful chastisement." Quran 4.160-161

"And how many a town that We destroyed, so Our punishment came to it by night or while they slept at midday." Quran 7.4

"When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them." Quran 8.12

"And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah; but if they desist, then surely Allah sees what they do." Quran 8.39

"O Prophet! urge the believers to war; if there are twenty patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundred, and if there are a hundred of you they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they are a people who do not understand." Quran 8.65

"So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful." Quran 9.5

"Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection." Quran 9.29

"O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil)." Quran 9.123

"And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction." Quran 17.16

"On the day when the trumpet shall be blown, and We will gather the guilty, blue-eyed, on that day" Quran 20.102

"Cursed: wherever they are found they shall be seized and murdered, a (horrible) murdering." Quran 33.61

Humanity needs peace not Islam.

Two excellent books

2007-01-04T13:51:00.000Z

These books are highly recommended:

"Londonistan" by Melanie Phillips (Daily Mail columnist)
www.melaniephillips.com

and

"Celsius 7/7" by Michael Gove (Conservative MP)

Both books describe in detail the rise of Islam in the west, the crass stupidity of our political leaders, in failing to recognise the Islamist threat, and componding the problem by a lack of robust and intelligent handling of this danger.

Through a lack of a proper understanding, the Islamist threat has grown at every stage.

Whilst I do not agree with every single statement in these two books, nevertheless, they are both very well researched, and contain many important truths.

It would seem that both authors are a little reluctant to point the finger of blame at Islam itself, as I have done on this blog. However, we cannot blame them for some reticence. Nobody wishes to have a fatwah against them, as did Salman Rushdie. He had to go into hiding for many years, following the publication of his book, the "Satanic Verses".

Humanity needs peace not Islam.

Does Rowan Williams believe the Bible?

2007-01-04T13:48:00.000Z

During December, Dr Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury visited Israel / Palestine.

The purpose of the trip was primarily to build bridges, and to give support to Christians in that land.

This is a very commendable aim. However, some of his subsequent statements show a significant misunderstanding of the political situation in that troubled region. His comments also suggest a lack of understanding of the Bible. He clearly has a very innacurate understanding of Islam.

We should start with the presumption that Israel has every right to exist as a nation, and that its ancient homeland is the most reasonable place for the modern state of Israel to have been founded. The Jewish people need their own country. We in Britain should feel proud and priveliged that Britain played an important role in the founding of the modern state of Israel, although regrettably, such support has been inconsistent over the years.

Of course, many Muslim Arabs, and by extension, many Muslims around the world, wish to deny the very existence of Israel, and will use any means to wipe Israel off the map.

Rowan Williams needs to fully understand these two points. It is not at all clear that he does. We must fully understand that the Islamic terrorist organisations, namely Hisbollah and Hamas are targetting Jewish civilians virtually on a daily basis. It is hardly any surprise therefore that Israel's armed forces take action to root out these terrorists. Unfortunately, not every operation is carried out with sufficient accuracy, and so civilian casualties result. Loss of innocent life is to be regretted, whoever it is.

As has been seen during the conflict in southern Lebanon during the summer of 2006, the Islamists are perfectly willing to make use of civilians as human shields. Unfortunately, the world's media are very much biased, or have been completely taken in by the Islamists' propaganda. I recall one television reporter interviewing an Israeli army officer. The officer repeatedly stated that they do not target civilians. The reporter clearly did not believe him.

Rowan Williams has written an article in The Times (December 23rd 2006). In it, he states:

"In Egypt, where Christian-Muslim relations have been - and still are - intimate and good, attacks in Christians are notably more frequent."

This may be true, but it is not the whole truth. In Egypt, the Christian population has been, and continues to be treated as Dhimmis, or protected people. This means that they are permitted to continue with their religious practices (but not in public), provided that they pay an additional tax. The tax is paid as an indication of their inferiority and subjugation.

"Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection." Quran 9.29

Another quote from this article: "One warning often made and systematically ignored in the hectic days before the Iraq war was that Western military action - at that time and in that way - would put Christians in the whole Middle East at risk. They would be seen as supporters of the crusading West."

The implication is that it is the persecution of Christians in Muslim countries is due to the war in Iraq (or other excuses, such as the Israel / Palestinian conflict, or Afghanistan). Certainly, it may well be that such persecution has intensified as a result of these conflicts. However, the root of these difficulties, and the primary cause, is the Quran itself. It is high time that this should be pointed out by Rowan Williams, and other Christian leaders. By not doing so, it is simply giving more and more justification for Muslims to make attacks on non-Muslims.

It is not just Christions who have suffered at the hands of Muslims over many centuries. We must also see that Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, Zoroastrians, Animists, and Pagans etc have also suffered persecutions, and continue to do so now, on a daily basis.

The responsibility for these persecutions rests fully upon the Quran:

"O Prophet! urge the believers to war; if there are twenty patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundred, and if there are a hundred of you they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they are a people who do not understand." Quran 8.65

"O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil)." Quran 9.123

Another quote from the Rowan Williams article: "As Christian populations migrate, it all fuels the myth in East and West - that Islam can't live with other faiths and that the East-West collision is an irreconcilable clash of faiths and cultures."

Unfortunately, despite any wishful thinking to the contrary, Islam really is incompatible with every other religion. Here is a quote from the Quran, which demonstrates this point:

"O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people." Quran 5.51

Muslims cannot coexist with Atheists either:

"They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper." Quran 4.89

I am sorry to have to say it Rowan, that although your article does make some valid points, by giving only half truths, your article is largely bullshit. I am sorry to have to use this strong word, but such propogation of half truths simply compounds the problems, and plays straight into the hands of the Muslims. You really must open your eyes to the truth.

The Palestinian Christian communities in Gaza and the West Bank are declining. It is pleasing to see that Rowan Williams is at least acknowledging that this is due to the pressure from the Palestinian Muslim community. He should now fully understand that Christians (and other non-Muslims) have been persecuted, or deliberately disadvantaged by Muslims ever since Islam arose. This has very little to do with Israel or the Iraq war, or Afghanistan as such. Indeed, Israel has no quarrel at all with Palestinian Christians, since they do not form terrorist organisations to target Jewish civilians.

In general, it should be perfectly possible for Christians and Jews to coexist peacefully. There is no in-built hostility towards Jews within Christian teaching, if read correctly. (Unlike the Quran) However, it is unfortunately the case that certain interpretations have been placed on various verses within the New Testament, with disastrous consequences for enmity between Christians and Jews. The Muslims are proud to claim that they have created enmity amongst Jews and amongst Christians, although it would appear to have arisen before Islam even existed.

"And with those who say, We are Christians, We made a covenant, but they neglected a portion of what they were reminded of, therefore We excited among them enmity and hatred to the day of resurrection; and Allah will inform them of what they did." Quran 5.14

"And the Jews say: The hand of Allah is tied up! Their hands shall be shackled and they shall be cursed for what they say. Nay, both His hands are spread out, He expends as He pleases; and what has been revealed to you from your Lord will certainly make many of them increase in inordinacy and unbelief; and We have put enmity and hatred among them till the day of resurrection; whenever they kindle a fire for war Allah puts it out, and they strive to make mischief in the land; and Allah does not love the mischief-makers." Quran 5.64

It is worthwhile considering the roots of anti-Semitism within Christianity. This reached its climax in the Holocaust. The Nazis took encouragement from numerous Christian sources, including Martin Luther. Here is a quote from Martin Luther, regarding the Jewish people:

"Burn their synagogues and schools; what will not burn, bury with earth, that neither stone nor rubbish remain. In like manner break into and destroy their homes. Take away their prayer books and Talmuds, in which there is nothing but godlessness, lies, cursing and swearing. Forbid their Rabbis to preach, on pain of life or limb... If I had power over them I would assemble their most prominent and demand that we Christians do not worship God, under penalty of having their tongues torn out through the back of the neck."

The seeds of anti-Semitism within Christianity were sown many years earlier. It is rather ironic that there should be this deplorable attitude, since Jesus himself was Jewish, as were his disciples and other followers. The initial preaching of the early Christian message was conducted in synagogues.

How can this be? Initially, there was a split from mainstream Judaism, which widened during the early development of Christianity. The rift was exacerbated as Christianity became the official religion of the Roman empire in AD312, and consequently changed its character, as it absorbed various Pagan ideas, such as the festivals of Christmas and Easter, and abandoned the Jewish festivals. The Emperor Constantine passed various anti-Semitic laws, following his conversion to Christianity.

Unfortunately, just because certain people consider themselves to be Christians, does not guarantee that they will behave well. We simply have to consider the burning of witches, and in more recent times, the massacre of innocent civilians in Bosnia, while the "civilised" world stood idly by, until America stepped in. It does seem to me that the Crusades were a serious mistake also, and they are a painful reminder that Christians do not always live up to their ideals. Today, we do battle via the keyboard. It is far better to convince someone of the truth by means of reasoned argument, than to cut off their head if they should disagree. As an aside, it is the case that fundamental Islam thrives when the population is ill-educated, and out of touch with the rest of the world. As literacy rates increase in Muslim countries, and as the Internet and other media becomes more widespread, so too does the extremist preaching begin to loosen its grip over the population. It would be helpful if the BBC were to drop its pro-Islamic bias. The truth about Islam is readily available from the Internet, and so the BBC is simply harming its own reputation.

Within Christianity, there then arose the concept of Replacement Theology. Simply stated, it teaches that where the word "Israel" appears in the New Testament, it does not necessarily mean the physical country of Israel, populated mainly by Jewish people. Instead, the word "Israel" is taken to mean the Christian Church. Such a concept is very widespread today amongst many (but by no means all) people who believe themselves to be Christians. However, there are serious difficulties and inconsistencies with this concept in itself. It also appears to be at the root of much anti-Semitism within Christianity, since it denies the important role that Israel has had, and today continues to have within Biblical teachings.

A book that is well worth reading, which covers this subject in depth, is "Has God finished with Israel?" by Rob Richards.

Perhaps many Christians do not think very deeply about these issues, but simply enjoy going to Church, saying prayers and singing hymns. However, it is highly unlikely that Rowan Williams would be unfamiliar with the details of Replacement Theology. It is his duty, therefore, to fully understand the consequences of it, including the resulting anti-Semitism. It is high time that he showed some true leadership qualities, and lead the Anglican Church away from such disastrous teachings. It is clear that the Pope is working very hard to build bridges with Judaism, and also with the Orthodox Church. The Pope is also actively chastising Islam, by calling it to apply reason and logic to faith. Faith without reason is nothing. It is important that Rowan Williams should do likewise, with a proper understanding of the issues, because the increasing threat of Islam worldwide means that time is running out. Being preoccupied by irrelevancies such as gay bishops or women priests is most regrettable in this context.

It is important that we fully understand the significant differences between Christianity and Islam. Many people who are not particularly interested in religions generally have the mistaken idea that they are all basically similar, which is patently untrue. It is the duty of Rowan Williams to point out that the true teachings of Christianity are for peace. He must also point out that Islam has within its writings (the Quran and the Hadiths) many bloodthirsty verses, which are as relevant to Muslims today as when they were written many centuries ago. Islam is violent and bloodthirsty to its very roots. Christianity is not, even though there have been many foolish people over the years who claim to be Christians. This includes Bush and Blair.

The Anglican church is in disarray, and is falling apart. Hardly surprising, given the lack of understanding clearly demonstrated by its leaders. There is a preoccupation with trivial issues, such as gay bishops. The Church needs to look outwards, not inwards, regain some backbone, and speak the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, with a loud and clear voice.

You may also like to read my blog posting "Is the Church of England cursed by God?"

Also take a look at this article:

A Challenge to Dr Rowan Williams

Humanity needs peace not Islam.

FREE 2007 Calendar

2006-12-29T11:26:00.000Z

A free calendar has been produced. There is a cartoon for each month, highlighting some of the strange aspects of Islam.
These cartoons are not gratuitously offensive, as the Danish cartoons were.
The calendar is in the form of a PDF file, which you would then print. The file size is 2 Mbytes.

The calendar can be downloaded from here:

Omdurman

Humanity needs peace not Islam.

They don't have the foggiest

2006-12-22T10:41:00.000Z

In the days leading up to Christmas, Heathrow Airport has been fogbound continuously. The result has been a significant reduction in the number of flights. Aircraft must rely on the Instrument Landing System (ILS), rather than using visual flight rules. A larger gap between aircraft is then necessary, to ensure that the ILS radio signal is not blocked by the aircraft in front.

At the time of writing (22nd December 2006) there have been three days of fog, and the weather forecast is stating that this will persist for several days more.

This is quite unprecedented in recent years. In general, fog dissipates during the course of the day, which allows some catching up with the schedule of arriving and departing flights. If fog does persist, it is unusual for it remain for many days, as the weather patterns in Britain are very changeable.

Heathrow Airport is the home airport of British Airways.

The controversy regarding the wearing of a cross by their employee Nadia Eweida is well known, resulting in many Christians calling for a boycott of British Airways flights.

Maybe God does exist after all, and He is punishing British Airways. If so, He certainly has a sense of humour. Choosing the busy time leading up to Christmas demonstrates a masterful comical timing!

British Airways is quite happy to profit financially from the surge in passenger numbers at Christmas time, without acknowledging the reasons behind Christmas. This fog will certainly hurt them financially.

So the message to even the largest of businesses must surely be: If you are going to mess with anybody, don't mess with God.

Humanity needs peace not Islam.

Happy Christmas Tony Blair

2006-12-19T13:24:00.000Z

Blair - The Qur’an "is practical and way ahead of its time"

From the Muslim Weekly. March 24th 2006

The Prime Minister during his speech "Not a clash between civilisations, but a clash about civilisation" spoke forcefully about the problems of terrorism.
The talk given to the Foreign Policy Centre and Reuters also included his praise of the Holy Qur’an.

"The most remarkable thing about reading the Koran – in so far as it can be truly translated from the original Arabic - is to understand how progressive it is.

"I speak with great diffidence and humility as a member of another faith. I am not qualified to make any judgements. But as an outsider, the Koran strikes me as a reforming book, trying to return Judaism and Christianity to their origins, rather as reformers attempted with the Christian Church centuries later. It is inclusive. It extols science and knowledge and abhors superstition. It is practical and way ahead of its time in attitudes to marriage, women and governance," he said.

He added that under the guidance of the Qur’an, the spread of Islam and its dominance over previously Christian or pagan lands was "breathtaking".

"Over centuries it founded an Empire, leading the world in discovery, art and culture. We look back to the early Middle Ages, the standard bearers of tolerance at that time were far more likely to be found in Muslim lands than in Christian," he declared.

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A sound appraisal of Blair's views is given on the The Campaign for United Kingdom Conservatism website:

http://www.ukconservatism.freeuk.com

BLAIR IN ISLAM LAND

Never has a British Prime Minister made such a fool of himself.

We set out below a direct point for point contrast between Blair's version of Islam and the true version as laid down in the Koran. The Muslim Weekly (doubtless suitably primed by Nr 10 spin doctors) quoted from a Blair speech to the Foreign Policy Centre. As Blair said himself (and never did he speak a truer word) "I am not qualified to make any judgements….!" But since when did that stop him making them anyway?

There are of course would be reformers of Islam but these extracts from official Muslim teaching, where the violence and hatred is directed against unbelievers and other religions, makes one realise how difficult an accommodation with Islamic fundamentalists is – and how difficult it is for reforming Muslims to argue with the fundamentalists. The Koran, unlike the Bible, is officially the word of God – Allah. We are grateful to Dr Srdja Trifkovic and Rev Dr Alan Clifford for extracts from the Koran.

Blair’s words come first, relevant extracts from the Koran are quoted in italics. The Koran, like the Bible, has chapters "Sura" and verses. Blair was obviously reading the wrong Koran!

"The most remarkable thing about reading the Koran ….. is to understand how progressive it is."

'Believers, retaliation is decreed for you in bloodshed' (Sura 2: 178).

"I am not qualified to make any judgements. But as an outsider, the Koran strikes me as a reforming book……"

"When we decide to destroy a population…then we destroy them utterly" (17.16-17)

"The Koran is inclusive…….."

Infidels are "the worst animals" (8.55) and the vilest of creatures" (98.6) For the captured infidel "we have prepared chains, yokes and a blazing fire" (76.4)

"It is practical and way ahead of its time in attitudes to marriage, women and governance,"

Islam’s heaven is full of virgins "untouched by man" (52.17-20, 55.56-77) and "fresh" boys! (52.24, 56.17 76.19)

"It extols science and knowledge and abhors superstition."

'Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate' (Sura 9: 73).

"……. trying to return Judaism and Christianity to their origins, rather as reformers
attempted with the Christian Church centuries later.

"Kill any Jew you can lay your hands on" – Mohammed told his followers.

Blair added that "under the guidance of the Qur’an, the spread of Islam and its dominance over previously Christian or pagan lands was "breathtaking".

'Those that deny Our revelations We will burn in Hellfire...

"Over centuries it founded an Empire, leading the world in discovery, art and culture. We look back to the early Middle Ages, the standard bearers of tolerance at that time were far more likely to be found in Muslim lands than in Christian," Blair declared.

"Attacking caravans in the holy month, taking up arms against one’s kinsmen, slaughtering prisoners, reserving a lion’s share of the booty for himself, violating treaties and indulging one’s own sensual passions was all at odds with the moral standards of Mohammed’s Arab contemporaries. Only the ultimate authority could sanction it and Allah duly obliged" Dr Srdja Trifkovic.

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Blair: 'Muslim may be PM'

By Anila Baig
December 09, 2006

A MUSLIM could one day be Prime Minister, Tony Blair said last night.

Speaking exclusively to The Sun, the PM said: “They said there would never be a woman Prime Minister, but there was. It would depend on how good they were.

“The people would judge who was best for the job.”

The Premier also said he would not mind if any of his children wanted to marry a Muslim, saying: "I would respect it, if that was their decision and they were in love and happy."

Earlier, he delivered a lecture on race and religion in front of an invited audience of community leaders, race chiefs and the media.

He celebrated the contribution made by Britain’s ethnic minorities and praised the wider community’s acceptance of people’s backgrounds.

He said Britain was a haven for all people and praised The Sun’s interview with Arsenal’s French footballer Thierry Henry, in which he claimed Britain was one of the world’s most tolerant countries. Mr Blair said: “I read it. I thought it was excellent. And I think Thierry Henry is a really great bloke, by the way.”

The PM said Britain had changed for the better in the last 30 years, with offensive remarks and stupid stereotypes driven out of everyday conversation. According to figures, only 12 per cent of people would mind if a close relative married a black or Asian person.

Mr Blair again acknowledged that he would not have a problem if his son or daughter brought home a Muslim.

But he again defended Commons Leader Jack Straw’s comments over the veil — while pointing out that most extremists were young men, not women in niqabs.

He said it was a matter of common sense that, when speaking to someone, you could see their face.

Mr Blair called Channel 4’s Alternative Christmas Message, which will feature a woman wearing a veil for the first time, “a joke”.

He said: “I won’t be watching. I’ll be watching the Queen’s speech.”

Mr Blair pointed out that there was a great deal of discussion on the issue of veils going on within the Muslim community.

The PM added: “When Jack Straw made his comments, no less a person than the Mufti of the Arab Republic of Egypt made an approving statement.”

Mr Blair pleased Muslims members of his audience by referring to extremists as a “fringe element”.

Many Muslims feel aggrieved over the way the war on terror has been handled and feel they have been tainted and are all under suspicion.

But Mr Blair defined a moderate Muslim, saying this was “someone who believes if you have a disagreement with someone, then you change it by peaceful means”.

He said it was not about how religion was practised, but stressed that it was everyone’s duty to integrate.

He added: “If you are permitted to stay here permanently, you become an equal member of our community and become one of us.”

Mr Blair argued the great thing about Britain is that people can worship as they wish.

He said his family would be going to church on Christmas Eve.

The PM said: “We can worship God in our own way.

“It’s what being British means. And neither racists nor extremists should be allowed to destroy it.”

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So, Happy Christmas Tony Blair. Perhaps you would like to go and live in a Muslim country for your long-anticipated retirement. Perhaps you will then see at first hand how Christians and other non-Muslims are treated there.

If you have read the Quran, did you understand the concept of abrogation?

You, Mr Blair are either a dangerous fool, or a dangerous liar.

Humanity needs peace not Islam.

Second email message sent to Members of Parliament.

2006-12-18T11:55:00.000Z

Dear Member of Parliament

I trust that my earlier email to you has been of some value. There is a worrying level of misinformation spread about Islam. It is through reading the Quran itself, and properly understanding the concept of abrogation, that we can start to have a true understanding.

You do not need to take my word for it, but instead study these two websites. They are written by ex-Muslims:
Faith Freedom www.faithfreedom.org
Apostates of Islam www.apostatesofislam.com

I have set up a blog, with the primary aim of providing a truthful understanding of Islam. The blog address is:

http://st-george-true.blogspot.com/

The blog was started in mid September. It was the anniversary of the London bombings that prompted my research into Islam. I wanted to understand the motivation of the Islamic terrorists. I have now come to understand that it is the Quran itself that is the primary inspiration. Blaming al Qaeda alone is too simplistic.

Anybody can leave comments on my blog, anonymously if they like. If I have made any error, I am happy to correct it.

Shortly after sending my first email to Members of Parliament, I have started to run into difficulties. In particular, my Internet Service Provider has threatened to block my internet access. I can only assume that it is one of your number who is attempting to stifle the debate. It may be that they will try to close down the blog also, so view it while you can.

This is really a very worrying development for our nation. Preventing freedom of speech and freedom of expression is a very serious matter, and will inevitably lead to serious consequences for our democracy.

Any reduction in our freedom of speech will seriously disadvantage our efforts to root out Islamic extremism.

I have at all times proclaimed the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, to the best of my ability.

It is very hard for the electorate to know which of our MPs actually have an understanding of Islam. It is patently obvious that Blair does not understand it. However, it is only Boris Johnson who has demonstrated some understanding, during the BBC "Question Time" programme of 16th November 2006.

I want to make progress, so here are some additional points:

In addition to a consideration of the roots of Islamic terrorism in itself, there are two areas in which Parliament must take the initiative to press for some real action from the Government (executive). The two areas are:

Firstly, to set up an enquiry into whether the Quran itself glorifies terrorism. Since we have the glorification of terrorism law, we should apply it. The law must be applied without fear or favour. However, it is painfully clear that those in authority are so fearful of offending certain elements in society, that a great disservice is done to the majority.

Secondly, we must consider the cruelty to animals of Halal slaughter. It is clear that human slavery is an evil and inhuman practice, and we should be proud that good Christians in Britain were instrumental in its abolition two hundred years ago. Of course, the abolition was opposed by those with a vested interest in making money from the despicable trade. Today, we have another battle of morals to be waged. This is the slaughter of animals for Halal meat, which causes avoidable suffering. It would be fitting for Britain to again take the lead today, as our ancestors did with the abolition of slavery..
We must first ban this cruel practice in Britain. We can then encourage the governments of Australia and New Zealand to follow our lead on this issue. Of course, there are powerful interests that would oppose the banning of live export of sheep from Australia and New Zeland to Middle East markets. Sometimes however, a reduction of revenues must be accepted for a greater good. Halal slaughter is evil and inhumane, and must be banned.

The Government's own advisers, the Farm Animal Welfare Council (www.fawc.org.uk), have written a document 'Report on the Welfare of Farmed Animals at Slaughter or Killing'

Regarding Halal slaughter, it states:

"195. When a very large transverse incision is made across the neck a number of vital tissues are transected including: skin, muscle, trachea, oesophagus, carotid arteries, jugular veins, major nerve trunks (e.g. vagus and phrenic nerves) plus numerous minor nerves. Such a drastic cut will inevitably trigger a barrage of sensory information to the brain in a sensible (conscious) animal. We are persuaded that such a massive injury would result in very significant pain and distress in the period before insensibility supervenes."

I wish you success in the application of wisdom and truth. As General Sir Richard Dannatt has said: "the truth will out".

Yours faithfully,
Lionheart.

NOTE:
I have not been able to send this message to the MPs listed below, as they do not give their email address on their websites, or the address given is out of date.
If you see the name of a colleague who would benefit from receiving this message, then by all means forward a copy to them.

Adams, Mr Gerry (SF)
Afriyie, Adam (Con)
Ainsworth, Rt Hon Bob (Lab)
Allen, Mr Graham (Lab)
Atkins, Charlotte (Lab)
Atkinson, Mr Peter (Con)
Austin, Mr Ian (Lab)

Baker, Norman (LD)
Barker, Gregory (Con)
Baron, Mr John (Con)
Barron, Rt Hon Kevin (Lab)
Beckett, Rt Hon Margaret (Lab)
Bellingham, Mr Henry (Con)
Bercow, John (Con)
Beresford, Sir Paul (Con)
Betts, Mr Clive (Lab)
Blackman, Liz (Lab)
Blackman-Woods, Dr Roberta (Lab)
Blair, Rt Hon Tony (Lab)
Blunkett, Rt Hon David (Lab)
Bone, Mr Peter (Con)
Borrow, Mr David S. (Lab)
Boswell, Mr Tim (Con)
Bradshaw, Mr Ben (Lab)
Brady, Mr Graham (Con)
Brooke, Annette (LD)
Brown, Rt Hon Gordon (Lab)
Brown, Rt Hon Nicholas (Lab)
Browne, Mr Jeremy (LD)
Burnham, Andy (Lab)
Burns, Mr Simon (Con)
Butterfill, Sir John (Con)

Caborn, Rt Hon Richard (Lab)
Campbell, Mr Gregory (DU)
Campbell, Mr Ronnie (Lab)
Cash, Mr William (Con)
Caton, Mr Martin (Lab)
Challen, Colin (Lab)
Chaytor, Mr David (Lab)
Chope, Mr Christopher (Con)
Clappison, Mr James (Con)
Clark, Greg (Con)
Clark, Ms Katy (Lab)
Clarke, Rt Hon Kenneth (Con)
Clarke, Rt Hon Tom (Lab)
Clegg, Mr Nick (LD)
Clelland, Mr David (Lab)
Clifton-Brown, Mr Geoffrey (Con)
Clwyd, Rt Hon Ann (Lab)
Connarty, Michael (Lab)
Conway, Derek (Con)
Cook, Frank (Lab)
Corbyn, Jeremy (Lab)
Cormack, Sir Patrick (Con)
Cousins, Jim (Lab)
Crabb, Mr Stephen (Con)
Crausby, Mr David (Lab)
Cruddas, Jon (Lab)
Cummings, John (Lab)
Cunningham, Mr Jim (Lab)
Curry, Rt Hon David (Con)

Davey, Mr Edward (LD)
Davidson, Mr Ian (Lab/Co-op)
Davies, Dai (Ind)
Davies, Mr Quentin (Con)
Davies, Philip (Con)
Davis, Rt Hon David (Con)
Djanogly, Mr Jonathan (Con)
Dobbin, Jim (Lab/Co-op)
Dobson, Rt Hon Frank (Lab)
Dodds, Mr Nigel (DU)
Doherty, Mr Pat (SF)
Drew, Mr David (Lab/Co-op)
Duncan Smith, Rt Hon Iain (Con)
Dunne, Mr Philip (Con)
Dunwoody, Mrs Gwyneth (Lab)
Durkan, Mark (SDLP)

Eagle, Maria (Lab)
Efford, Clive (Lab)
Ellman, Mrs Louise (Lab/Co-op)
Ellwood, Mr Tobias (Con)
Ennis, Jeff (Lab)
Etherington, Bill (Lab)

Fabricant, Michael (Con)
Farrelly, Paul (Lab)
Field, Mr Mark (Con)
Fisher, Mark (Lab)
Follett, Barbara (Lab)
Foster, Mr Don (LD)
Fox, Dr Liam (Con)
Fraser, Mr Christopher (Con)

Gale, Mr Roger (Con)
Galloway, Mr George (Respect)
George, Andrew (LD)
George, Rt Hon Bruce (Lab)
Gibb, Mr Nick (Con)
Gibson, Dr Ian (Lab)
Gildernew, Michelle (SF)
Gillan, Mrs Cheryl (Con)
Godsiff, Mr Roger (Lab)
Goodwill, Mr Robert (Con)
Greening, Justine (Con)
Greenway, Mr John (Con)
Grieve, Mr Dominic (Con)
Griffith, Nia (Lab)
Griffiths, Nigel (Lab)
Gwynne, Andrew (Lab)

Hague, Rt Hon William (Con)
Hall, Patrick (Lab)
Hammond, Mr Philip (Con)
Harper, Mr Mark (Con)
Harris, Dr Evan (LD)
Harvey, Nick (LD)
Hayes, Mr John (Con)
Heal, Sylvia (DCWM)
Henderson, Mr Doug (Lab)
Hepburn, Mr Stephen (Lab)
Hermon, Lady Sylvia (UU)
Heyes, David (Lab)
Hill, Rt Hon Keith (Lab)
Hillier, Meg (Lab/Co-op)
Hoey, Kate (Lab)
Hogg, Rt Hon Douglas (Con)
Hollobone, Mr Philip (Con)
Holloway, Mr Adam (Con)
Hopkins, Kelvin (Lab)
Horam, Mr John (Con)
Horwood, Mr Martin (LD)
Howarth, Rt Hon George (Lab)
Howells, Dr Kim (Lab)
Hoyle, Mr Lindsay (Lab)
Hughes, Rt Hon Beverley (Lab)
Humble, Mrs Joan (Lab)

Iddon, Dr Brian (Lab)
Illsley, Mr Eric (Lab)
Ingram, Rt Hon Adam (Lab)

Jack, Rt Hon Michael (Con)
Jackson, Glenda (Lab)
Jackson, Mr Stewart (Con)
Jenkin, Mr Bernard (Con)
Jones, Helen (Lab)
Jowell, Rt Hon Tessa (Lab)

Kaufman, Rt Hon Sir Gerald (Lab)
Keeble, Ms Sally (Lab)
Keeley, Ms Barbara (Lab)
Keen, Alan (Lab/Co-op)
Kelly, Rt Hon Ruth (Lab)
Kemp, Mr Fraser (Lab)
Kennedy, Rt Hon Charles (LD)
Kennedy, Rt Hon Jane (Lab)
Key, Robert (Con)
Khabra, Mr Piara S (Lab)
Kidney, Mr David (Lab)
Kumar, Dr Ashok (Lab)

Ladyman, Dr Stephen (Lab)
Laing, Mrs Eleanor (Con)
Lammy, Mr David (Lab)
Lancaster, Mr Mark (Con)
Leech, Mr John (LD)
Lepper, David (Lab/Co-op)
Letwin, Rt Hon Oliver (Con)
Lewis, Mr Ivan (Lab)
Lewis, Dr Julian (Con)
Liddell-Grainger, Mr Ian (Con)
Linton, Martin (Lab)
Lloyd, Tony (Lab)
Llwyd, Mr Elfyn (PC)
Lord, Sir Michael (DCWM)
Luff, Peter (Con)

McCafferty, Chris (Lab)
McCartney, Rt Hon Ian (Lab)
McCrea, Rev Dr William (DU)
McDonnell, Dr Alasdair (SDLP)
McFadden, Mr Pat (Lab)
McGuinness, Mr Martin (SF)
McIntosh, Miss Anne (Con)
McIsaac, Shona (Lab)
Mackinlay, Andrew (Lab)
Maclean, Rt Hon David (Con)
McLoughlin, Rt Hon Patrick (Con)
MacNeil, Mr Angus (SNP)
McNulty, Mr Tony (Lab)
Mahmood, Mr Khalid (Lab)
Malik, Mr Shahid (Lab)
Malins, Mr Humfrey (Con)
Marsden, Mr Gordon (Lab)
Marshall, Mr David (Lab)
Martin, Rt Hon Michael J. (SPK)
Martlew, Mr Eric (Lab)
Maude, Rt Hon Francis (Con)
Michael, Rt Hon Alun (Lab/Co-op)
Milburn, Rt Hon Alan (Lab)
Miliband, Edward (Lab)
Miller, Andrew (Lab)
Milton, Anne (Con)
Moffat, Anne (Lab)
Morden, Jessica (Lab)
Morley, Mr Elliot (Lab)
Mountford, Kali (Lab)
Mudie, Mr George (Lab)
Mullin, Mr Chris (Lab)
Murphy, Conor (SF)
Murphy, Mr Denis (Lab)
Murphy, Rt Hon Paul (Lab)

Neill, Bob (Con)
Newmark, Mr Brooks (Con)
Norris, Dan (Lab)

O'Brien, Mr Mike (Lab)
O'Brien, Mr Stephen (Con)
O'Hara, Mr Edward (Lab)
Olner, Mr Bill (Lab)
Osborne, Mr George (Con)

Paisley, Rt Hon Ian (DU)
Palmer, Dr Nick (Lab)
Paterson, Mr Owen (Con)
Pearson, Ian (Lab)
Pelling, Mr Andrew (Con)
Penning, Mike (Con)
Penrose, John (Con)
Pound, Stephen (Lab)
Prescott, Rt Hon John (Lab)
Price, Adam (PC)
Prosser, Gwyn (Lab)
Purnell, James (Lab)

Reed, Mr Andy (Lab/Co-op)
Reed, Mr Jamie (Lab)
Reid, Mr Alan (LD)
Rifkind, Rt Hon Sir Malcolm (Con)
Riordan, Mrs Linda (Lab/Co-op)
Robathan, Mr Andrew (Con)
Robertson, Hugh (Con)
Robertson, John (Lab)
Robertson, Mr Laurence (Con)
Robinson, Mr Geoffrey (Lab)
Robinson, Mrs Iris (DU)
Robinson, Mr Peter (DU)
Rooney, Mr Terry (Lab)
Rosindell, Andrew (Con)
Rowen, Paul (LD)
Ruane, Chris (Lab)
Ruddock, Joan (Lab)
Russell, Christine (Lab)
Russell, Bob (LD)
Ryan, Joan (Lab)

Sanders, Mr Adrian (LD)
Seabeck, Alison (Lab)
Shaw, Jonathan (Lab)
Shepherd, Mr Richard (Con)
Simon, Mr Siôn (Lab)
Simpson, David (DU)
Simpson, Mr Keith (Con)
Singh, Mr Marsha (Lab)
Skinner, Mr Dennis (Lab)
Smith, Ms Angela C. (Lab)
Smith, Angela E. (Lab/Co-op)
Smith, Geraldine (Lab)
Smith, John (Lab)
Smith, Sir Robert (LD)
Snelgrove, Anne (Lab)
Soulsby, Sir Peter (Lab)
Southworth, Helen (Lab)
Spring, Mr Richard (Con)
Stanley, Rt Hon Sir John (Con)
Steen, Mr Anthony (Con)
Stewart, Ian (Lab)
Straw, Rt Hon Jack (Lab)
Stringer, Graham (Lab)
Sutcliffe, Mr Gerry (Lab)
Swire, Mr Hugo (Con)
Syms, Mr Robert (Con)

Tapsell, Sir Peter (Con)
Taylor, David (Lab/Co-op)
Taylor, Matthew (LD)
Taylor, Dr Richard (Ind)
Thomas, Mr Gareth (Lab/Co-op)
Timms, Rt Hon Stephen (Lab)
Tipping, Paddy (Lab)
Touhig, Rt Hon Don (Lab/Co-op)
Tredinnick, David (Con)
Trickett, Jon (Lab)
Truswell, Mr Paul (Lab)
Turner, Mr Neil (Lab)
Tyrie, Mr Andrew (Con)

Vis, Dr Rudi (Lab)

Waltho, Lynda (Lab)
Wareing, Mr Robert N. (Lab)
Watkinson, Angela (Con)
Watts, Mr Dave (Lab)
Wicks, Malcolm (Lab)
Widdecombe, Rt Hon Ann (Con)
Wiggin, Bill (Con)
Willetts, Mr David (Con)
Williams, Rt Hon Alan (Lab)
Williams, Mrs Betty (Lab)
Williams, Hywel (PC)
Williams, Mark (LD)
Williams, Mr Roger (LD)
Wilshire, Mr David (Con)
Wilson, Sammy (DU)
Winterton, Sir Nicholas (Con)
Wishart, Pete (SNP)
Woolas, Mr Phil (Lab)
Wright, Mr Anthony (Lab)
Wright, Mr Iain (Lab)

Yeo, Mr Tim (Con)
Young, Rt Hon Sir George (Con)
Younger-Ross, Richard (LD)

Humanity needs peace not Islam.

Can Islam coexist with democracy?

2006-12-18T11:52:00.000Z

Simply do a Google search with the words "islam democracy".
You will find numerous websites, quite a number of which are written by Muslims.

It would appear that Democracy and Islam are incompatible.

There are obvious implications therefore for Iraq. It was very irresponsible of Bush and Blair to have meddled with an Islamic country, without first having a good grasp of Islam itself. At least Bush is now listening to some wise counsel. However, it is not clear that Blair understands the question yet, let alone has progressed towards a solution.

A valid point has been raised by General Sir Richard Dannatt:

"The original intention was that we put in place a liberal democracy that was an exemplar for the region, was pro-West and might have a beneficial effect on the balance within the Middle East. That was the hope. Whether that was a sensible or naïve hope, history will judge. I don't think we are going to do that. I think we should aim for a lower ambition."

Whether Islam can ever be compatible with Democracy in the future is an interesting question. It would require Islam itself to change, which seems unlikely. However, any changes must be made from within, and cannot be made from outside Islam.

It may be that the Pope can have some influence to encourage the debate within Islam. Let us hope so.

Humanity needs peace not Islam.

New Scientist Halal

2006-12-18T11:41:00.000Z

It is pleasing to see that Muslim researchers are looking for a less cruel method of slaughter. Meanwhile, the routine cruelty of Halal slaughter must stop, until such time as an improved method can be proven. Any method of slaughter must be no more cruel or distressing for the animal than that of the best possible practice. This applies both to the slaughter itself, but also in the treatment of the animal up to the time of slaughter.

Incidentally, I have a Jewish friend who is a vegetarian. It would appear that a growing consciousnes of, and conscience about the cruelty of traditional methods of slaughter is developing within the Jewish community.

This article is copied from the "New Scientist" magazine of 2nd December 2006:

Halal-standard slaughtering doesn't need animals awake

"He has only forbidden you dead meat and blood, and the flesh of swine and that on which any other name has been invoked besides that of God." (The Koran 2:173)

Muslim religious law requires, amongst other things, that an animal must be drained of blood before it is halal - permissible for consumption. Ritual slaughter according to Jewish dietary law - shechita - has the same prescription.

Most Muslim slaughterers believe that drainage will only be complete if the throat of the animal is slit without stunning it first, but now Haluk Anil of the University of Bristol, UK, and colleagues have shown that the amount of blood drained from the animal, and the rate of blood loss, is the same regardless of whether or not it is stunned first.

Anlil's team have already shown that stunning does not affect "bleed-out" in sheep. Now they have done the same thing in cattle. They measured the bleed-out in 13 cattle killed by the traditional Muslim method, and 13 killed in the same way, but having first been stunned by a captive-bolt-pistol blow to the head (Animal Welfare, vol 15, p 325).

"Stunning does not impede blood loss, therefore this objection cannot be used any more," says Anlil, who is coordinating a European Union project to examine legislation and welfare issues related to religious slaughter, both shechita and halal.

Humanity needs peace not Islam.

M&S Halal

2006-12-12T15:25:00.000Z

This is an email sent to Marks and Spencer. As yet, no useful reply has been received.

customer.care@marks-and-spencer.com

M&S Halal

Dear Sir or Madam

I very much welcome the active stance that M&S has towards animal welfare.

I have looked at the website of the Farm Animal Welfare Council (www.fawc.org.uk), and have read their document 'Report on the Welfare of Farmed Animals at Slaughter or Killing'

Regarding Halal slaughter:

"195. When a very large transverse incision is made across the neck a number of vital tissues are transected including: skin, muscle, trachea, oesophagus, carotid arteries, jugular veins, major nerve trunks (e.g. vagus and phrenic nerves) plus numerous minor nerves. Such a drastic cut will inevitably trigger a barrage of sensory information to the brain in a sensible (conscious) animal. We are persuaded that such a massive injury would result in very significant pain and distress in the period before insensibility supervenes."

Can you reassure me that M&S do not sell any Halal meat, or Halal meat products?

Do you also check whether pet food contains Halal meat?

With kind regards

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Humanity needs peace not Islam.

Email message sent to Members of Parliament.

2006-12-12T15:21:00.000Z

(NOTE: To anyone wishing to be helpful: This is an email that I have already sent to UK Members of Parliament. It is NOT a petition, therefore do NOT send any additional copies to UK Members of Parliament, as that is likely to cause confusion, which will not be helpful.

However, if you wish to make use of this letter to send it to your MPs or Senators in your own country, then please do so. You will need to adapt it to your own specific circumstances. For example, the paragraph relating to Prince Charles is not relevant to the USA, but is relevant for Canada, Australia, New Zealand and other Commonwealth nations.

If you have the time and energy to do this task, then please add a comment below, so that I can get in touch with you. It is not a small task, and will involve several days of effort. It would be helpful if only one person per country does this task, to avoid duplicated effort and confusion. All replies can then be collated on a single website or blog per country.)

Dear Member of Parliament

During the course of the forthcoming Parliamentary year, there will be debates on terrorism. It is vitally important that you should first have a good understanding of Islam, in order to have a meaningful debate on Islamic terrorism. Hence, you need to understand the Quran.

I have made numerous notes on my blog, which hopefully can be a useful resource for you. You will find it here:

http://st-george-true.blogspot.com/

The key aspect that you must understand about the Quran is the concept of "abrogation". This means that the chronologically earlier verses, which can be very tolerant, are superseded by the later verses, which are generally very bloodthirsty and violent.

Therefore, if you are told that Islam is a religion of peace, and you are given quotes such as "there shall be no compulsion in religion", you need to be on your guard.

It is a frequent misconception, or deliberate propaganda, that the word "Islam" means "peace". It does not. The word "Islam" is derived from the Arabic word "al-silm", which means "surrender" or "submission".

Unlike other religions, Christianity or Buddhism for example, a lack of honesty is inherently part of Islam. A quote from the Hadiths (essentially Mohammed's biography) demonstrates this:

"Whenever I tell you a narration from Allah's Apostle, by Allah, I would rather fall down from the sky than ascribe a false statement to him, but if I tell you something between me and you (not a Hadith) then it was indeed a trick (i.e., I may say things just to cheat my enemy)." Hadith Volume 9, Book 84, Number 64

There is little point in Parliament passing laws which are then not acted upon. The glorification of terrorism act for example. It is clearly the case that the Quran is the single most significant document that inspires, condones, commands, and glorifies Islamic terrorism. There needs to be an enquiry into whether the Quran meets the criteria of the glorification of terrorism act.

It is deeply concerning that our future Monarch, Prince Charles, appears to have a limited understanding of the truth about Islam, despite his interest in it. Since Islam is completely intolerant of all other religions, it is meaningless for him to wish for the title "Defender of Faiths". As a loyal subject, I do not wish to see my Monarch become a laughing stock.

The Quran itself makes it clear that Muslims cannot integrate peacefully with non-Muslims:

"O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people." Quran 5.51

"O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil)." Quran 9.123

In addition to the threat of Islamic terrorism, it is clear from these quotes that Islam is also a serious threat to social cohesion and stability in Britain. There are already strident calls for Sharia law to be introduced in certain areas, which must be strongly resisted. Take care when deciding how much government power to devolve to regions or cities. Islamists will be quick to take advantage of any weakening of control from central government. They aim to "cut off the head", so to speak, meaning, to sever the connection between government and the populace. Beware, they will use any means to stifle debate, and put curbs on any public analysis of Islam. Any reduction in our freedom of speech will seriously disadvantage our efforts to root out Islamic extremism.

Speaking the truth is far more important than worrying about offending sensibilities. We owe that much at least to the victims of the London bombings.

Islamic terrorism cannot be considered in isolation from Islam itself. In response to 9/11, Salman Rushdie wrote an article with the title "Yes, This Is About Islam". It is worthwhile reading the first two paragraphs:

<"This isn't about Islam." The world's leaders have been repeating this mantra for weeks, partly in the virtuous hope of deterring reprisal attacks on innocent Muslims living in the West, partly because if the United States is to maintain its coalition against terror it can't afford to suggest that Islam and terrorism are in any way related.

The trouble with this necessary disclaimer is that it isn't true. If this isn't about Islam, why the worldwide Muslim demonstrations in support of Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda? Why did those 10,000 men armed with swords and axes mass on the Pakistan-Afghanistan frontier, answering some mullah's call to jihad? Why are the war's first British casualties three Muslim men who died fighting on the Taliban side?>

The full article is found here:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/rushdie/yes_its_about_islam.htm
It is worthwhile taking a good look at this Faith Freedom website. It tells the truth about Islam.

I would very much appreciate a meaningful reply to this email. I will place all replies onto my blog, unless you mark it "CONFIDENTIAL". It is important that the electorate should know which of their MPs or Parliamentary candidates have a firm and accurate understanding of this subject matter.

I wish you success in the application of wisdom and true understanding during the forthcoming debates. This issue is far too important to be sidetracked by party political point scoring.

Yours faithfully,
Lionheart.

NOTE:
I have not been able to send this message to the MPs listed below, as they do not give their email address on their websites.
If you see the name of a colleague who would benefit from receiving this message, then by all means forward a copy to them.

Adams, Mr Gerry (SF)
Afriyie, Adam (Con)
Ainsworth, Rt Hon Bob (Lab)
Allen, Mr Graham (Lab)
Atkins, Charlotte (Lab)
Atkinson, Mr Peter (Con)
Austin, Mr Ian (Lab)

Baker, Norman (LD)
Barker, Gregory (Con)
Baron, Mr John (Con)
Barron, Rt Hon Kevin (Lab)
Beckett, Rt Hon Margaret (Lab)
Bellingham, Mr Henry (Con)
Bercow, John (Con)
Beresford, Sir Paul (Con)
Betts, Mr Clive (Lab)
Blackman, Liz (Lab)
Blackman-Woods, Dr Roberta (Lab)
Blair, Rt Hon Tony (Lab)
Blunkett, Rt Hon David (Lab)
Bone, Mr Peter (Con)
Borrow, Mr David S. (Lab)
Boswell, Mr Tim (Con)
Bradshaw, Mr Ben (Lab)
Brady, Mr Graham (Con)
Brooke, Annette (LD)
Brown, Rt Hon Gordon (Lab)
Brown, Rt Hon Nicholas (Lab)
Browne, Mr Jeremy (LD)
Burnham, Andy (Lab)
Burns, Mr Simon (Con)
Butterfill, Sir John (Con)

Caborn, Rt Hon Richard (Lab)
Campbell, Mr Gregory (DU)
Campbell, Mr Ronnie (Lab)
Cash, Mr William (Con)
Caton, Mr Martin (Lab)
Challen, Colin (Lab)
Chaytor, Mr David (Lab)
Chope, Mr Christopher (Con)
Clappison, Mr James (Con)
Clark, Greg (Con)
Clark, Ms Katy (Lab)
Clarke, Rt Hon Kenneth (Con)
Clarke, Rt Hon Tom (Lab)
Clegg, Mr Nick (LD)
Clelland, Mr David (Lab)
Clifton-Brown, Mr Geoffrey (Con)
Clwyd, Rt Hon Ann (Lab)
Connarty, Michael (Lab)
Conway, Derek (Con)
Cook, Frank (Lab)
Corbyn, Jeremy (Lab)
Cormack, Sir Patrick (Con)
Cousins, Jim (Lab)
Crabb, Mr Stephen (Con)
Crausby, Mr David (Lab)
Cruddas, Jon (Lab)
Cummings, John (Lab)
Cunningham, Mr Jim (Lab)
Curry, Rt Hon David (Con)

Davey, Mr Edward (LD)
Davidson, Mr Ian (Lab/Co-op)
Davies, Dai (Ind)
Davies, Mr Quentin (Con)
Davies, Philip (Con)
Davis, Rt Hon David (Con)
Djanogly, Mr Jonathan (Con)
Dobbin, Jim (Lab/Co-op)
Dobson, Rt Hon Frank (Lab)
Dodds, Mr Nigel (DU)
Doherty, Mr Pat (SF)
Drew, Mr David (Lab/Co-op)
Duncan Smith, Rt Hon Iain (Con)
Dunne, Mr Philip (Con)
Dunwoody, Mrs Gwyneth (Lab)
Durkan, Mark (SDLP)

Eagle, Maria (Lab)
Efford, Clive (Lab)
Ellman, Mrs Louise (Lab/Co-op)
Ellwood, Mr Tobias (Con)
Ennis, Jeff (Lab)
Etherington, Bill (Lab)

Fabricant, Michael (Con)
Farrelly, Paul (Lab)
Field, Mr Mark (Con)
Fisher, Mark (Lab)
Follett, Barbara (Lab)
Foster, Mr Don (LD)
Fox, Dr Liam (Con)
Fraser, Mr Christopher (Con)

Gale, Mr Roger (Con)
Galloway, Mr George (Respect)
George, Andrew (LD)
George, Rt Hon Bruce (Lab)
Gibb, Mr Nick (Con)
Gibson, Dr Ian (Lab)
Gildernew, Michelle (SF)
Gillan, Mrs Cheryl (Con)
Godsiff, Mr Roger (Lab)
Goodwill, Mr Robert (Con)
Greening, Justine (Con)
Greenway, Mr John (Con)
Grieve, Mr Dominic (Con)
Griffith, Nia (Lab)
Griffiths, Nigel (Lab)
Gwynne, Andrew (Lab)

Hague, Rt Hon William (Con)
Hall, Patrick (Lab)
Hammond, Mr Philip (Con)
Harper, Mr Mark (Con)
Harris, Dr Evan (LD)
Harvey, Nick (LD)
Hayes, Mr John (Con)
Heal, Sylvia (DCWM)
Henderson, Mr Doug (Lab)
Hepburn, Mr Stephen (Lab)
Hermon, Lady Sylvia (UU)
Heyes, David (Lab)
Hill, Rt Hon Keith (Lab)
Hillier, Meg (Lab/Co-op)
Hoey, Kate (Lab)
Hogg, Rt Hon Douglas (Con)
Hollobone, Mr Philip (Con)
Holloway, Mr Adam (Con)
Hopkins, Kelvin (Lab)
Horam, Mr John (Con)
Horwood, Mr Martin (LD)
Howarth, Rt Hon George (Lab)
Howells, Dr Kim (Lab)
Hoyle, Mr Lindsay (Lab)
Hughes, Rt Hon Beverley (Lab)
Humble, Mrs Joan (Lab)

Iddon, Dr Brian (Lab)
Illsley, Mr Eric (Lab)
Ingram, Rt Hon Adam (Lab)

Jack, Rt Hon Michael (Con)
Jackson, Glenda (Lab)
Jackson, Mr Stewart (Con)
Jenkin, Mr Bernard (Con)
Jones, Helen (Lab)
Jowell, Rt Hon Tessa (Lab)

Kaufman, Rt Hon Sir Gerald (Lab)
Keeble, Ms Sally (Lab)
Keeley, Ms Barbara (Lab)
Keen, Alan (Lab/Co-op)
Kelly, Rt Hon Ruth (Lab)
Kemp, Mr Fraser (Lab)
Kennedy, Rt Hon Charles (LD)
Kennedy, Rt Hon Jane (Lab)
Key, Robert (Con)
Khabra, Mr Piara S (Lab)
Kidney, Mr David (Lab)
Kumar, Dr Ashok (Lab)

Laing, Mrs Eleanor (Con)
Lammy, Mr David (Lab)
Lancaster, Mr Mark (Con)
Leech, Mr John (LD)
Lepper, David (Lab/Co-op)
Letwin, Rt Hon Oliver (Con)
Lewis, Mr Ivan (Lab)
Lewis, Dr Julian (Con)
Liddell-Grainger, Mr Ian (Con)
Linton, Martin (Lab)
Lloyd, Tony (Lab)
Llwyd, Mr Elfyn (PC)
Lord, Sir Michael (DCWM)
Luff, Peter (Con)

McCartney, Rt Hon Ian (Lab)
McCrea, Rev Dr William (DU)
McDonnell, Dr Alasdair (SDLP)
McFadden, Mr Pat (Lab)
McGuinness, Mr Martin (SF)
McIntosh, Miss Anne (Con)
McIsaac, Shona (Lab)
Mackinlay, Andrew (Lab)
Maclean, Rt Hon David (Con)
McLoughlin, Rt Hon Patrick (Con)
MacNeil, Mr Angus (SNP)
McNulty, Mr Tony (Lab)
Mahmood, Mr Khalid (Lab)
Malik, Mr Shahid (Lab)
Malins, Mr Humfrey (Con)
Marsden, Mr Gordon (Lab)
Marshall, Mr David (Lab)
Martin, Rt Hon Michael J. (SPK)
Martlew, Mr Eric (Lab)
Maude, Rt Hon Francis (Con)
Michael, Rt Hon Alun (Lab/Co-op)
Milburn, Rt Hon Alan (Lab)
Miliband, Edward (Lab)
Miller, Andrew (Lab)
Milton, Anne (Con)
Moffat, Anne (Lab)
Morden, Jessica (Lab)
Morley, Mr Elliot (Lab)
Mountford, Kali (Lab)
Mudie, Mr George (Lab)
Mullin, Mr Chris (Lab)
Murphy, Conor (SF)
Murphy, Mr Denis (Lab)
Murphy, Rt Hon Paul (Lab)

Neill, Bob (Con)
Newmark, Mr Brooks (Con)
Norris, Dan (Lab)

O'Brien, Mr Mike (Lab)
O'Brien, Mr Stephen (Con)
O'Hara, Mr Edward (Lab)
Olner, Mr Bill (Lab)
Osborne, Mr George (Con)

Paisley, Rt Hon Ian (DU)
Paterson, Mr Owen (Con)
Pearson, Ian (Lab)
Pelling, Mr Andrew (Con)
Penning, Mike (Con)
Penrose, John (Con)
Pound, Stephen (Lab)
Prescott, Rt Hon John (Lab)
Price, Adam (PC)
Prosser, Gwyn (Lab)
Purnell, James (Lab)

Reed, Mr Andy (Lab/Co-op)
Reed, Mr Jamie (Lab)
Reid, Mr Alan (LD)
Rifkind, Rt Hon Sir Malcolm (Con)
Riordan, Mrs Linda (Lab/Co-op)
Robathan, Mr Andrew (Con)
Robertson, Hugh (Con)
Robertson, John (Lab)
Robertson, Mr Laurence (Con)
Robinson, Mr Geoffrey (Lab)
Robinson, Mrs Iris (DU)
Robinson, Mr Peter (DU)
Rooney, Mr Terry (Lab)
Rosindell, Andrew (Con)
Rowen, Paul (LD)
Ruane, Chris (Lab)
Ruddock, Joan (Lab)
Russell, Christine (Lab)
Russell, Bob (LD)
Ryan, Joan (Lab)

Sanders, Mr Adrian (LD)
Seabeck, Alison (Lab)
Shaw, Jonathan (Lab)
Shepherd, Mr Richard (Con)
Simon, Mr Siôn (Lab)
Simpson, David (DU)
Simpson, Mr Keith (Con)
Singh, Mr Marsha (Lab)
Skinner, Mr Dennis (Lab)
Smith, Ms Angela C. (Lab)
Smith, Angela E. (Lab/Co-op)
Smith, Geraldine (Lab)
Smith, John (Lab)
Smith, Sir Robert (LD)
Snelgrove, Anne (Lab)
Soulsby, Sir Peter (Lab)
Southworth, Helen (Lab)
Spring, Mr Richard (Con)
Stanley, Rt Hon Sir John (Con)
Steen, Mr Anthony (Con)
Stewart, Ian (Lab)
Straw, Rt Hon Jack (Lab)
Stringer, Graham (Lab)
Sutcliffe, Mr Gerry (Lab)
Swire, Mr Hugo (Con)
Syms, Mr Robert (Con)

Tapsell, Sir Peter (Con)
Taylor, David (Lab/Co-op)
Taylor, Matthew (LD)
Taylor, Dr Richard (Ind)
Thomas, Mr Gareth (Lab/Co-op)
Timms, Rt Hon Stephen (Lab)
Tipping, Paddy (Lab)
Touhig, Rt Hon Don (Lab/Co-op)
Tredinnick, David (Con)
Trickett, Jon (Lab)
Truswell, Mr Paul (Lab)
Turner, Mr Neil (Lab)
Tyrie, Mr Andrew (Con)

Vis, Dr Rudi (Lab)

Waltho, Lynda (Lab)
Wareing, Mr Robert N. (Lab)
Watkinson, Angela (Con)
Watts, Mr Dave (Lab)
Wicks, Malcolm (Lab)
Widdecombe, Rt Hon Ann (Con)
Wiggin, Bill (Con)
Willetts, Mr David (Con)
Williams, Rt Hon Alan (Lab)
Williams, Mrs Betty (Lab)
Williams, Hywel (PC)
Williams, Mark (LD)
Williams, Mr Roger (LD)
Wilshire, Mr David (Con)
Winterton, Sir Nicholas (Con)
Wishart, Pete (SNP)
Woolas, Mr Phil (Lab)
Wright, Mr Anthony (Lab)
Wright, Mr Iain (Lab)

Yeo, Mr Tim (Con)
Young, Rt Hon Sir George (Con)
Younger-Ross, Richard (LD)

Humanity needs peace not Islam.

St George True

The Church of England has lost its mettle

The Allah Delusion

Out of the Tunnel

DIRECTORY

7/7/2005 the second anniversary

The Council of ex-Muslims of Britain

Straw and Rushdie, and proof that Allah is not all-knowing or wise

Halal and Kosher

Hizb ut Tahrir

Leadership

Security for homosexuals, women, and Jews

Cameron, stand up like a man.

Speech by David Cameron

The Hindu perspective

Talking Turkey

Helping those at threat from Islam

DIRECTORY

The Muslim Eskimo! A poem

Wither Islam? A poem

University funding

Raspberry and wasp flavoured yoghurt

The gravity of the situation

Sir Isaac Newton regarding Islam

Buddhist exemption from inheritance tax

What can a Christian eat?

Monkeys and pigs

Conservatives: You do not understand

Home Secretary: "My friend"

Afghan poppy crop

Who are the Nazis now?

Salman Rushdie: Yes, This Is About Islam

Policy Exchange report

Further points regarding David Cameron's horse meat

Labour intolerance

David Cameron's horse meat

EU: Turkish Accession

Gordon Brown Inspired

Undercover Mosque Transcript

Undercover Mosque

Church of England Dhimmitude

Are Allah and Yahweh the same entity?

Blair is confused

DIRECTORY

Two excellent books

Does Rowan Williams believe the Bible?

FREE 2007 Calendar

They don't have the foggiest

Happy Christmas Tony Blair

Second email message sent to Members of Parliament.

Can Islam coexist with democracy?

New Scientist Halal

M&S Halal

Email message sent to Members of Parliament.