Wednesday, January 17, 2007

Church of England Dhimmitude

Unfortunately the Church of England is well on the way to Dhimmitude, without even realising it.

The problem lies, in part, with the inter-faith services. If a Muslim prays or preaches in a Church or Cathedral, that effectively means that it then belongs to Allah. It is a bit like a dog peeing on a lamp post to mark its territory. Stretching the analogy a little: The urine causes the lamp post to corrode and eventually collapse. One more source of illumination is thereby deleted, and the world becomes a darker, more dangerous place.

I am not at all convinced that Allah and Yahweh are the same entity. The Quran makes it clear that the Trinity of Christianity is rejected as a false teaching:

"Certainly they disbelieve who say: Surely Allah is the third (person) of the three; and there is no god but the one God, and if they desist not from what they say, a painful chastisement shall befall those among them who disbelieve." Quran 5.73

Within the Quran, there are numerous bloodthirsty verses, which form an inseparable part of Islam. These verses cannot be deleted, and remain as relevant today as when they were written. Neither can they be excused, or explained away. Today, every day, bloodshed follows the Quran wherever it is propagated around the world. This has been true for many centuries historically, and there is nothing to prevent it remaining true for many centuries to come.

I like to think of religions as buildings. First, a very substantial structure has been built by Judaism. This has been extended by Christianity, without in any way demolishing the existing building. Instead, the extension has created a much more useful structure, able to accommodate many more people.

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." Matthew 5:17-18

Along comes Islam, and demolishes the Judaeo-Christian building, and places its own edifice on the site. A monstrous carbuncle on the face of a dear friend. Bloodshed, confusion, and despair follow in its wake. Mohammed surely has a lot to answer for. Here is a quote from the New Testament:

"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them." Matthew 7:15-20

The concept of abrogation means that many of the earlier "revelations" given to Mohammed are cancelled out by the later verses in the Quran. However, it also means that much of the Bible is also cancelled out. How then can the Church permit verses from the Quran to be spoken within its buildings, knowing that it thereby places the Bible into a secondary position below the Quran?

"Whatever communications We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring one better than it or like it. Do you not know that Allah has power over all things?" Quran 2.106

Inter-faith worship has necessitated too much compromise, and has been going on for too long now. The document "Guidelines on Worship Involving Christians and People of Other Faith Traditions - Prepared by a Task Force of the Faith, Worship, and Ministry Comittee of the Anglican Church of Canada approved by the Council of General Synod" is dated November 1996. It references another document dated 1988, so this madness has a long history.

The extent of the Dhimmitude is recognised in these quotes from the document:

"When people of faith gather to worship together we do so understanding ourselves to be in relationship to the ultimate mystery of the source and end of being, which Christians name as the Triune God, although others name that reality in other terms."


"Christians who participate in worship with members of other traditions do so in acknowledgement of the possibility that the presence of God may be mediated through traditions other than their own."


"The primary purpose of inter-faith worship is not to educate one another in our various forms of worship (important as that may be) but to stand together in relationship to the ultimate mystery and to one another in a given context. This combination of dimensions means that we are bound together not only before the ultimate mystery but also in a community of ethical responsibility."


"We are at a cross-roads in history and we cannot predetermine the effects of dialogue. We cannot establish a fixed theological tradition in which we make judgements about other traditions."

It would appear from these quotes that the Anglican church has rejected the uniqueness of the teachings of the Bible. If the Anglicans have no strength of conviction in their own tenets, then of course they are unable to make judgements about other traditions.

This state of affairs deserves its warnings::

"But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven." Matthew 10:33

"This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men." Matthew 15:8-9

"But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken; The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." Matthew 24:48-51

Towards the end of the document, we find this statement:

"Participation in the worship of another tradition does not indicate consent or agreement but respect."

Given the extent of the accommodations that have been made, indicated by the earlier quotes, this latter statement lacks credibility. Furthermore, just because the nominal Christians who attend such an inter-faith service may believe this statement, does not imply that the participants from other faiths agree with this sentiment. Indeed, far from it. For a Muslim, the Quran abrogates the Bible. Permitting the Quran to be quoted within a Church or Cathedral has serious implications, which are not obvious to everyone.

By allowing Muslims into their buildings, it implies that the C of E does believe that Allah and Yahweh are the same. The Quran itself demonstrates that they are not the same. The historical circumstances of the arrival of Islam also indicates that they are not the same, and that Muslims are probably worshipping a moon god inadvertently.

The C of E would not allow Pagans in to worship Odin etc, would they? Unfortunately, it would appear that the name Allah is derived from the moon god Al-Llah, who was already worshipped at Mecca prior to the arrival of Mohammed on the scene. Whilst we may derive some morbid fascination with this religious pile-up scene, how can we actually help to rescue the victims? It would appear that a large section of Christianity cannot form the rescue team, since they are very much involved in the accident itself. The road to peace will remain blocked for the whole of humanity, until the results of Mohammed's dangerous driving have been cleared away. At the present time it is not at all obvious who will have the courage to form the rescue team, to clear away the carnage.

The Church of England is well on the way towards Dhimmitude. This is confirmed by the statements of Archbishop Dr Rowan Williams recently. He seems to think that the plight of the Palestinian Christians is primarily due to Israel. Of course, the reality is that Palestinian Christians are persecuted and disadvantaged primarily by Palestinian Muslims. Likewise, Christians and people of other faiths are persecuted and disadvantaged by Muslims in many countries around the world.

It is not just the Church of England that has strayed into error, but so has the Roman Catholic Church.

As proclaimed by His Holiness Pope Paul VI – October 28, 1965:

"The [Roman Catholic] Church regards with esteem also the Moslems. They adore the one God, living and subsisting in Himself; merciful and all- powerful, the Creator of heaven and earth, who has spoken to men; they take pains to submit wholeheartedly to even His inscrutable decrees, just as Abraham, with whom the faith of Islam takes pleasure in linking itself, submitted to God. Though they do not acknowledge Jesus as God, they revere Him as a prophet. "

There is one simple word for this proclamation: Blasphemy.

It would seem that the current Pope is more robust in his defence of Christianity from the depradations of Islam. Let us hope that he does not lose his nerve.

The leadership of the Church of England must speak the truth about Islam, even if that leads to difficulties. The Pope has challenged Islam to make use of rationality, in his Regensburg lecture. However, that central message was drowned out by controversy regarding whether Islam has been spread by the sword. That this historical fact should have resulted in churches being burned, and Christians being attacked simply demonstrates the inherent violence of Islam.

The present leadership of the C of E appears to be not up to the challenge. It would help if they understood better the nature of the conflict with Islam. It will not simply go away. No amount of appeasement and wishful thinking will achieve very much, and indeed it is counter-productive. The excellent book "Celsius 7/7" by Michael Gove MP clearly demonstrates the folly of appeasement.

Furthermore, if the Church truly believes that Christianity is the only path, then it is a great disservice to Muslims themselves to allow them to preach within Church buildings. They are thereby encouraged to continue in their error unchallenged. Their belief that Islam is superior to Christianity is reinforced. This is not in the best interest of Muslims, and it is not in the best interests of the Church either.

The Church of England cannot afford to go on making such blunders. It is not just the future of the Church that is at stake, but the future of Britain, and indeed the whole world also. Islam will utterly destroy Christianity if it possibly can.

There is a plentiful supply of bats in the belfry! Of course, anybody can make a mistake. What is needed is to recognise that a serious mistake has been made, and then to take corrective actions.

There are also many obvious differences between Christianity and Islam, particularly in relation to the person of Jesus Christ, the way of salvation, and each faith’s scripture or scriptures. These differences encompass the very foundational tenets of each religion, and therefore, while Islam and Christianity can both be false, they cannot both be true.

Humanity needs peace not Islam.


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At 11:30 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Excellent article,especialy the anology to buildings,for what could be clearer viewing the monstrous carbuncle extensions that are intended to overwhelm the original English houses the pakistani muslim homeowner is so fond of.Indeed is that not in line with the wat those beasts treat our land and people,dhimmi councils turning blind eyes just as C of E do.Well its about time someone issued a demolition order.ST GEORGE AND ENGLAND TRUE.


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