Security for homosexuals, women, and Jews
Notes:
1. The following messages were placed on the "Security Policy" message board of the Conservative Party website.
2. Mehmet Imamzade was a Muslim interlocutor. He gave up responding to my messages, probably because he was not able to defend Islam against detailed questioning.
3. The message "Security for Jews" was deleted by the message board webmaster.
Security for homosexuals
When (rather than if) Sharia law is introduced into Britain, there will be severe penalties for homosexuals. Mehmet Imamzade, would you be happy to see homosexuals stoned to death? Surely this is a very serious security issue? It is estimated that some 4000 homosexuals may have been executed in Iran since the Islamic revolution in 1979.
Security for women
Under Sharia law, a woman's testimony is valued at only half of a man's testimony.
In the case of a rape, where there are no witnesses, a woman will usually find that her life becomes unbearable if she reports it.
If she brings her complaint to a Sharia court, it is highly likely that she will be convicted of adultery, and the man, her rapist, will receive only a very light penalty, if at all.
The penalty for adultery is extreme: Either a severe beating, or even stoning to death. One way that a woman can avoid this, is to marry the man. He then has complete authority to rape her whenever he feels like it. Here is a quote from the Quran:
"Your wives are a tilth for you, so go into your tilth when you like" Quran 2.223
In addition, a woman prisoner or slave ("those whom your right hand possesses") can be raped repeatedly without any penalty at all:
"O Prophet! surely We have made lawful to you your wives whom you have given their dowries, and those whom your right hand possesses out of those whom Allah has given to you as prisoners of war" Quran 33.50
Mehmet Imamzade, do you think it is right that a woman's testimony is valued at only half of a man's testimony?
Security for Jews
There are certain similarities between Nazi doctrines, and Islamic doctrines.
For example, both wish to exterminate Jews. Both spread their ideology by violent means where necessary. Both have a supremacist attitude.
Here are some quotes:
"Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' " " Hadith Volume 4, Book 52, Number 176:
"And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!" Quran 9.30
"Wherefore for the iniquity of those who are Jews did We disallow to them the good things which had been made lawful for them and for their hindering many (people) from Allah's way. And their taking usury though indeed they were forbidden it and their devouring the property of people falsely, and We have prepared for the unbelievers from among them a painful chastisement." Quran 4.160-161
"O Prophet! urge the believers to war; if there are twenty patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundred, and if there are a hundred of you they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they are a people who do not understand." Quran 8.65
"Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection." Quran 9.29
I have been criticised for taking a quote out of context. However, what is important is not whether a non-Muslim has some minor misunderstanding of a particular quote, but whether a Muslim will act upon their instructions. It is common knowledge that the leaders of Iran would like to see Israel wiped off the map.
The horrors of the Nazi concentration camps are well documented. We should not imagine that the Jewish people are in any less danger today.
In Britain we see the increasing number of anti-semitic desecrations of Jewish cemetries.
Mehmet Imamzade, do you not think that it is high time that Islam should stop targeting Jews?
1. The following messages were placed on the "Security Policy" message board of the Conservative Party website.
2. Mehmet Imamzade was a Muslim interlocutor. He gave up responding to my messages, probably because he was not able to defend Islam against detailed questioning.
3. The message "Security for Jews" was deleted by the message board webmaster.
Security for homosexuals
When (rather than if) Sharia law is introduced into Britain, there will be severe penalties for homosexuals. Mehmet Imamzade, would you be happy to see homosexuals stoned to death? Surely this is a very serious security issue? It is estimated that some 4000 homosexuals may have been executed in Iran since the Islamic revolution in 1979.
Security for women
Under Sharia law, a woman's testimony is valued at only half of a man's testimony.
In the case of a rape, where there are no witnesses, a woman will usually find that her life becomes unbearable if she reports it.
If she brings her complaint to a Sharia court, it is highly likely that she will be convicted of adultery, and the man, her rapist, will receive only a very light penalty, if at all.
The penalty for adultery is extreme: Either a severe beating, or even stoning to death. One way that a woman can avoid this, is to marry the man. He then has complete authority to rape her whenever he feels like it. Here is a quote from the Quran:
"Your wives are a tilth for you, so go into your tilth when you like" Quran 2.223
In addition, a woman prisoner or slave ("those whom your right hand possesses") can be raped repeatedly without any penalty at all:
"O Prophet! surely We have made lawful to you your wives whom you have given their dowries, and those whom your right hand possesses out of those whom Allah has given to you as prisoners of war" Quran 33.50
Mehmet Imamzade, do you think it is right that a woman's testimony is valued at only half of a man's testimony?
Security for Jews
There are certain similarities between Nazi doctrines, and Islamic doctrines.
For example, both wish to exterminate Jews. Both spread their ideology by violent means where necessary. Both have a supremacist attitude.
Here are some quotes:
"Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' " " Hadith Volume 4, Book 52, Number 176:
"And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!" Quran 9.30
"Wherefore for the iniquity of those who are Jews did We disallow to them the good things which had been made lawful for them and for their hindering many (people) from Allah's way. And their taking usury though indeed they were forbidden it and their devouring the property of people falsely, and We have prepared for the unbelievers from among them a painful chastisement." Quran 4.160-161
"O Prophet! urge the believers to war; if there are twenty patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundred, and if there are a hundred of you they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they are a people who do not understand." Quran 8.65
"Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection." Quran 9.29
I have been criticised for taking a quote out of context. However, what is important is not whether a non-Muslim has some minor misunderstanding of a particular quote, but whether a Muslim will act upon their instructions. It is common knowledge that the leaders of Iran would like to see Israel wiped off the map.
The horrors of the Nazi concentration camps are well documented. We should not imagine that the Jewish people are in any less danger today.
In Britain we see the increasing number of anti-semitic desecrations of Jewish cemetries.
Mehmet Imamzade, do you not think that it is high time that Islam should stop targeting Jews?
posted by Lionheart @ 10:49 am
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1 Comments:
These quotes are completely out of context and are super biased. They way you portray them fails as their true meaning is completely different to what you say.
Woman have more rights in Islam then men so you need to better your research. And finally you target this Mehmet guy for standing up for his religion when you are doing the same? Shame on you!
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